Oriana Fallaci faces jail for writing book on Eurabia

The Wall Street Journal ^ | June 19,2005 | TUNKU VARADARAJAN

[nathanbedford]

IT CAN'T HAPPEN HERE, can it?

It is happening here. America has lost control of its own borders - no, America has simply abdicated control of its own borders.

The same politicians who cannot bring themselves to acknowledge a phenomenon daily manifesting itself on street corners all over America, millions - so many that we cannot count, we can only estimate in bunches of tens of millions - of illegal aliens in our midst, these politicians cannot abide the alleged whiff of hate and hasten to pass laws exalting one kind of victim over another. Hate crime legislation is the politically correct precursor to the vilipendio or vilification statutes now being exploited in Italy by a Muslim judge to muzzle the dying Fellacci. Hate crimes are especially appealing to liberals because they punish the way you think, rather than what you do, and this is the perfect extension of their struggle to control us from kindergarten years on.

Our government institutions have waged war in the schools, and in the public square against the culture's original and dominant religion.

Our culture has turned upon itself and assaulted the institutions which had made it the envy of the world, the non-socialist world, that is: The Family (the institution of marriage, the role of the father, the responsibility for and authority over children); The Schools (the 19th century McGuffey reader conception of the small and manageable school as a place where children are educated and instructed in morality has been repudiated and replaced with a Skinner box, a place for indoctrination and conditioning to produce generations of adult liberals; the universities have long been given over to every stratagem conceived by The Frankfurt School to undermine resistance to socialism); The Eleemosynary institutions (Ford, MacArthur, etc, are today hardly distinguishable from Soros' frankly political foundations; They are virtually every one of them dedicated to the designs of post soviet socialism, again, according to the vision of The Frankfurt School . The Churches themselves ( Witness the agitation within the National Council of Churches to divest from investments in Israel)The Courts (one need only remark on the latest thrust, that against private property)

The remonstrance could be almost infinitely extended but one grows weary as well as dispirited; weary from the exertion and dispirited by the very real prospect of it happening here.

Good Sunday morning to you.

[Nathan Zachary]

"We know why all the other civilizations have collapsed--from an excess of welfare, of richness, and from lack of morality, of spirituality." (She uses "welfare" here in the sense of well-being, so she is talking, really, of decadence.) "The moment you give up your principles, and your values . . . the moment you laugh at those principles, and those values, you are dead, your culture is dead, your civilization is dead. Period."

So true. And you are following that path, because you don't know your history.
The only "religion" that has committed horrable atrocities because of it's doctrine is Islam.

Show me where in Christian/judism biblical scripture it says to commit horrible atrocities. It's man that commits horrible atrocities, and the most horrible of them in history has been by athiests. Yes, there have been periods where misguided people have missused the power of religion to commit atrocities, but they certainly were not inspired by scriptyre as is Islam.

If anything, Christianity has prevented atrocities, and became the glue which held Europe together, and it grew up as a result. Now they are abandoning that common bonding influence and are falling apart.

[Nathan Zachary]

""Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder," the historian Arnold Toynbee wrote, and these words could certainly be Ms. Fallaci's. She is in a black gloom about Europe and its future: "The increased presence of Muslims in Italy, and in Europe, is directly proportional to our loss of freedom.""

Europe needs more people like her, who aren't afraid to speak the truth. So does America.

[Nathan Zachary]

Obviously you don't know what islam is all about.

Your "fellow muslim" does not believe that you, infidel, have any rights, never mind equal ones.

[Gritty]

Italy should be ashamed...

... and frightened.

[aberaussie]

bttt

[muir_redwoods]

"If she broke the law let her be punished."

They stone women in some countries because they were raped. That's the law there. Obviously you wouldn't support such a law and in this case Fallaci simply wrote what she thought of Islam's impact on the west. It's her opinion.

You're not obligated to agree with her opinion but do you really agree with a law that supresses it?

[Americanexpat]

He just signed up yesterday and wants to know where he stands right off the bat.

[RedRover]

"Islam, like Communism, has a real genius for using the weakness of a society to make it attack itself."

This is a brilliant observation. The more Liberal a society becomes, the weaker it will be--and that has to be recognized. One need only read what Colleen Rowley, the FBI whistleblower in Minnesota, had to say about her stymied investigation into flight schools.
It's past time that Americans realized that PC laws and attitudes (such as prohibiting racial profiling) may make one feel virtuous, but are a present danger to our free society. The PC Goody-Goodies are largely responsible for the fact that 9-11 could happen with such dreadful ease.
Karl Rove hit the nail on the head and could have gone much further in a "j'accuse" of Liberalism as weakening the society it purports to be advancing.

[Tribune7]

isn't it strange how we do not want those rights to cover fellow citizens who happen to be muslim.

You seem more upset about this than about Christians who were arrested in Saudi Arabia.

[Grand Old Partisan]

Nathan Bedford Forrest, your hero, killed 33 U.S. troops, a body count any Islamic terrorist would envy.

[Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)]

Are you drunk agaian?

[Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)]

I mean...again? LOL!!!

[nathanbedford]

Three hundred thousand yankees

Stiffen in southern dust

We got three hundred thousand

Before they conquered us

They died of southern fever

And southern steel and shot

And I wish it was three million

Instead of what we got.

It seems that the man you wish to villify was not entirely alone in his view of Reconstruction. I am sure you can pick phrases out of the Ry Coder version ( I believe he performed it in THe Long Riders) to further villify him and I provide the lyrics to convenience you. Just be careful not to make the Senator Durbin blunder.

Ry cooder - I’m a good old rebel lyrics

(traditional, arranged by ry cooder)

Oh, I’m a good old rebel Now that’s just what I am For this fair land of freedom I do not care a damn. I’m glad I fought against it I only wish we’d won. And I don’t want no pardon For anything I’ve done.

I hates the yankee nation And everything they do, I hates the declaration Of independence, too; I hates the glorious union- ’tis dripping with our blood- And I hates their striped banner, I fought it all I could.

Three hundred thousand yankees Stiffen in southern dust We got three hundred thousand Before they conquered us They died of southern fever And southern steel and shot And I wish it was three million Instead of what we got.

I want to reconstruct it I’m better now than then And for that carpet beggar I don’t give a damn So I’m a forward the frontier Soon as I can go I could bear a weapon And start for mexico

[wtc911]

I suggest and predict an early demise to the 'son of jonah" on this forum.

[wtc911]

My bet, son-of-jonah is a muslim non-native brit (living there) looking for trouble.

[DumpsterDiver]

I hope nobody asks me what I think about the religion of peace the next time I'm in Italy. I could get into some real trouble.

I believe Fallaci's exact words in the following quote were:

... the people of the West have surrendered themselves fecklessly to the "f___ing sons of Allah."

So in a nutshell, Oriana Fallaci faces up to two years' imprisonment for her beliefs--which is one reason why she has chosen to stay put in New York.

Here's hoping she has many more years left.

[Grand Old Partisan]

You and the Islamic terrorists share a thirst for killing U.S. troops. Maybe you're posting from some hideout in Iraq.

[tomkat]

You and the Islamic terrorists share a thirst for killing U.S. troops

gop, that was way over the line, even for me !

[nathanbedford]

Ignoble Old Partisan:

CONGRATULATIONS: YOU HAVE JUST EARNED THE SEN. DURBIN AWARD FOR THE WEEK

In two posts you have made assumptions which are not warranted, that is you have no evidence: First, that Forrest is my "hero." Second, that I share a "thirst" for killing anyone, much less US Troops.

In your arrogance, you have committed the Sen Durbin sin which I forewarned you against, you have likened me to a terrorist.

Congratulations, Senator.