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'My dream was to be a suicide bomber. I wanted to kill 20, 50 Jews. Yes, even babies'
The Sunday Telegraph ^ | June 26, 2005 | Manuela Dviri

Posted on 06/26/2005 12:38:08 AM PDT by MadIvan

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To: Walkingfeather

People eventually respect the righteous and judicious use of force.


81 posted on 06/26/2005 5:15:09 AM PDT by Red Sea Swimmer (Tisha5765Bav)
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To: MadIvan

-Ayat, as with many of the women she is incarcerated with, believes that a woman martyr "will be the chief of the 72 virgins, the fairest of the fair".-

Stupid woman. You get NOTHING. Islam is for the brutal men who supress you over your lifetime. Your life's in the crapper because of the millions of them, not because of a few Jews across the street.


82 posted on 06/26/2005 5:19:57 AM PDT by AmericanChef
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83 posted on 06/26/2005 5:29:17 AM PDT by SJackson (Israel should know if you push people too hard they will explode in your faces, Abed. palestinian)
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To: SJackson
That took you awhile to arrive...

Well done on your attentiveness.
84 posted on 06/26/2005 5:30:57 AM PDT by Red Sea Swimmer (Tisha5765Bav)
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To: MadIvan

Jeeez!!!!

Another stupid quote by Dick Durbin?


85 posted on 06/26/2005 5:35:14 AM PDT by linkinpunk
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To: SJackson
Just for information purposes and to make clear to me your current mindset, if you were the decision maker, would you launch an attack on the nuclear reactor in Iran ?

P.S. I am trying to find truly wise people at this time in human history. I might need them in the not-too-distant future to assist me.
86 posted on 06/26/2005 5:35:31 AM PDT by Red Sea Swimmer (Tisha5765Bav)
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To: livius
You have essentially summed up the overall dilemma in two most important parts, the strictest form of Islam and populations accustomed or numbed to an existence within Arab/Muslim police states.

'Persian' Iran being the prime example for the Muhammadan theocracy and Syria being the harsh police state.

87 posted on 06/26/2005 5:45:22 AM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: Walkingfeather
I wonder what Curley would say about state of today's world?

We may be approaching another major test from the likes of Iran, al-Qa'ida, North Korea or some semi-rouge Islamic terrorist outfit trying to carve out name recognition.

The neutron bomb of those you mentioned could rapidly become a viable option contingent on adverse future events, regarding the present collection of the world's madman.

88 posted on 06/26/2005 5:55:37 AM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: Red Sea Swimmer

Your words make no sense in this situation, and if you truly think Iran is willing to go off hand in hand with Israel into the sunset, I have a bridge in Brooklyn I'd like to sell to you. We're not dealing with people who long to make peace. Palestinians desire the total, irrevocable annihilation of Israel. This mindset is drilled into those innocent young Palestinians, kept in miserable camps for years and years, denied proper education and a decent living because Arafat stole most of the aid money and put it in Swiss banks. His interests lay not with a prosperous, satisfied peaceful people. Once as they were enslaved by poverty and ignorance, they were a reservoir for the intifada and any other homicidal mischief he could think of.

Islam has wider ambitions, and they include the worldwide elimination of Jews and anyone else they disagree with. The Koran allows, encourages lying, dishonesty when it comes to signing treaties with infidels, and that's most of the western world.

I'd like to believe Iran has nothing but peace on her mind, but I read statements by their newly elected leader, and I'm not sanguine about that. And when faced with a determined enemy, especially one busy building nukes and long range missiles, it's best not to be a foolish.

Israel is a beard, the handy excuse for attacking western civilization. If Israel disappeared overnight, Iran and the rest of Islamofacism would come up with something else to be furious about. (The total destruction of the US, for instance, and I believe that's been mentioned in some detail in various al Quaeda documents.) Let's face it, the UN is worse than useless. We can't expect them to act as honest brokers.

Nobody said violence is innate from birth. I pointed out that violence, murder, and death has been drilled into young, impressionable Arab minds as the one and only solution to Israel. It's part of the school curriculum. They start in on these kids early and often. Normal children don't march around in lockstep in staged rallies for tv consumption, shouting death to Israel, etc. Normal children don't strap on bomb vests, etc.. Normal, decent adults don't do this to kids. They don't use them as cannon fodder. And they don't speak of women as 'useful', as if they're no better than the family goat.

This isn't a parlor game, my friend. This is very, very serious. One side wants peace and worldwide prosperity, the other has a more deadly agenda in mind.


89 posted on 06/26/2005 5:56:22 AM PDT by hershey
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To: backhoe

this one looks like one of turbin durbin's disciples


90 posted on 06/26/2005 6:11:57 AM PDT by mt tom
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To: MadIvan
And what about babies? Would you have killed babies and children? she was asked. "Yes, even babies and children. You, too, kill our babies. Do you remember the Doura child?"

A myth. He was in fact killed by Palestinians.

This is the legacy of the animal Arafat. At least GWB would never give that worthless pig the time of day.

91 posted on 06/26/2005 6:12:18 AM PDT by veronica (Mimes and clowns are weird...)
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To: MadIvan
tend to agree with him. Neither the Palestinian people nor the Israelis should have to pay for the fanatical acts of their extremists.

Moral relativism run amuck. Jihadis are killing innocents all over this planet. By the most barbaric methods imaginable. The Palestinians are but one element of the savagery known quaintly as the religion of peace. Killing babies is nothing to these savages. As we saw in Beslan.

92 posted on 06/26/2005 6:17:33 AM PDT by veronica (Mimes and clowns are weird...)
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To: MadIvan
I shudder to think about what would have happened if some other terrorists had been standing by with a remote detonator.

Interesting she said if a man dies a martyr he gets 72 virgins, if she dies a martyr she is the head virgin. She must like being a whore.
93 posted on 06/26/2005 6:41:20 AM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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To: M. Espinola

how pathetic a life like this must be...


94 posted on 06/26/2005 7:00:01 AM PDT by Jazzman1
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95 posted on 06/26/2005 7:59:09 AM PDT by Alouette (The only thing learned from history is that nobody ever learns from history.)
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To: veronica
This is the legacy of the animal Arafat. At least GWB would never give that worthless pig the time of day.

Yes, but GWB sure gave this worthless pig the time of day, along with $50 Million...

and a hand shake too!

96 posted on 06/26/2005 8:04:36 AM PDT by Ryan Tiger (This ain't no dress rehearsal.)
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Once again the "Religion of Peace" reveals it's real Amaleki face.



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97 posted on 06/26/2005 8:11:30 AM PDT by IAF ThunderPilot (The basic point of the Israel Defense Forces: -Israel cannot afford to lose a single war.)
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To: Ryan Tiger

Too true...


98 posted on 06/26/2005 8:12:15 AM PDT by veronica (Mimes and clowns are weird...)
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To: Red Sea Swimmer
P.S. Do you know that young children when surveyed about what they wish for, often quite openly and honestly respond that they wish for World Peace ?

Too bad most Palestinian Children wish for a suicide belt. Really demonstrates the difference between Islam and Civilisation...

99 posted on 06/26/2005 9:13:28 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Red Sea Swimmer
Do you know that young children when surveyed about what they wish for, often quite openly and honestly respond that they wish for World Peace ?

My experience as a parent of nine children has demonstrated quite conclusively that very young children are quite incapable of comprehending abstract concepts such as "world peace" "salvation" or "Moshiach" but are taught by parents and teachers that these are "good things" to wish for when they would really prefer an ice cream cone.

100 posted on 06/26/2005 9:20:00 AM PDT by Alouette (The only thing learned from history is that nobody ever learns from history.)
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