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The Ugly Anti-American (Yanks are real hosers, eh!)
The Toronto Star ^ | June 25, 2005 | David Bruser

Posted on 06/25/2005 10:33:46 AM PDT by quidnunc

A reporter posing as a friendly U.S. tourist on Toronto's streets finds Canadians aren't as affable or open-minded as we'd like to think

Warmonger. Bible thumper. Braggart.

All popular, contemporary stereotypes of Americans.

Though one would think us "polite" Canadians would not utter these to an American's face, a reporter posing as a U.S. tourist learned his place in this city right quick.

During a couple of days walking major streets in the centre of Toronto, this pretender introduced himself to several locals and limped away with sore feet and the feeling that I'd been picked on.

Having lived in Mississippi for a couple of years, I felt impersonating a Southerner was within my limited acting skills. Nothing too obvious, no 10-gallon cowboy hats or "I do declare's". Just a few "y'alls,"mixed in withsupport of George W.

While many were happy to talk geopolitics and differentiate between the U.S. government and its citizens, several others did not make that distinction, projecting the perceived sins of a nation onto me.

In Kensington Market, the tone was shrill. Of five people I approached, two were downright sanctimonious.

First, I approached John, sitting on a stoop smoking, a Toronto hat on his head. I asked for a lighter, introduced myself and said I'd noticed anti-Americanism in Toronto. He asked if I was a Republican and I said I was.

Then John asked, "Are you a fundamentalist of some kind?"

"This is Kensington Market," he added. "It's about the worst place for fellow right-wingers."

After I thanked him for his time and started walking away, he instructed, "Reconsider your views."

Yessir.

By no means a scientific or comprehensive survey, I sidled up to strangers bearing no ill will to ask for directions or the use of a lighter for a cigarette, introduced myself, told them where I was from, then turned the conversation to politics.

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But a November poll by Ipsos-Reid of 1,000 residents in each of the two countries showed one in seven Canadians (15 per cent) agree with the statement that "at the heart of it, I am actually anti-American. I don't like or respect anything the United States and its people stand for or what it is about."

Seven of the 30 I approached acted snotty, and several other Americans found in the city during this time said they too were the targets of mean-spirited locals.

Oh Lord it's hard to be humble when you're perfect in every way. – Proposed replacement for Oh, Canada

1 posted on 06/25/2005 10:33:48 AM PDT by quidnunc
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The ugly anti-American
Reporter David Bruser poses as a friendly U.S. tourist on Toronto's streets and finds Canadians aren't as affable or open-minded as we'd like to think



Warmonger. Bible thumper. Braggart.

All popular, contemporary stereotypes of Americans.

Though one would think us "polite" Canadians would not utter these to an American's face, a reporter posing as a U.S. tourist learned his place in this city right quick.

During a couple of days walking major streets in the centre of Toronto, this pretender introduced himself to several locals and limped away with sore feet and the feeling that I'd been picked on.

Having lived in Mississippi for a couple of years, I felt impersonating a Southerner was within my limited acting skills. Nothing too obvious, no 10-gallon cowboy hats or "I do declare's". Just a few "y'alls,"mixed in withsupport of George W.

While many were happy to talk geopolitics and differentiate between the U.S. government and its citizens, several others did not make that distinction, projecting the perceived sins of a nation onto me.

In Kensington Market, the tone was shrill. Of five people I approached, two were downright sanctimonious.

First, I approached John, sitting on a stoop smoking, a Toronto hat on his head. I asked for a lighter, introduced myself and said I'd noticed anti-Americanism in Toronto. He asked if I was a Republican and I said I was.

Then John asked, "Are you a fundamentalist of some kind?"

"This is Kensington Market," he added. "It's about the worst place for fellow right-wingers."

After I thanked him for his time and started walking away, he instructed, "Reconsider your views."

Yessir.

By no means a scientific or comprehensive survey, I sidled up to strangers bearing no ill will to ask for directions or the use of a lighter for a cigarette, introduced myself, told them where I was from, then turned the conversation to politics.

Up Augusta Ave., closer to College St., Charlie, an elderly man sitting outside smoking, needed only my introduction as an American.

"You like Americans?" I asked.

"They brag too much, don't they?" he said.

"They boast. They have this and they have that. (If they spent less) time doing that, they'd just get their problems solved, eh?"

Toronto is about to reap the benefits of American tourists, who travel here in the millions each year, mainly between July and September. In 2001, 3.4 million Americans visited this city and 3.2 million came in 2002, spending a total of $2.4 billion, according to Tourism Toronto. (SARS curbed tourism in 2003.)

But a November poll by Ipsos-Reid of 1,000 residents in each of the two countries showed one in seven Canadians (15 per cent) agree with the statement that "at the heart of it, I am actually anti-American. I don't like or respect anything the United States and its people stand for or what it is about."

Seven of the 30 I approached acted snotty, and several other Americans found in the city during this time said they too were the targets of mean-spirited locals.

While anti-Americanism has long existed in Canada, it seems to many that the attitude has intensified in recent years.

In a speech just a few weeks ago, Frank McKenna, our ambassador to the United States, acknowledged the self-righteousness and urged Canadians to cease gratuitous attacks and "endlessly" moralizing.

"I've seen some really appalling behaviour simply because I'm an American," said New York-native Clifford Krauss, Canadian correspondent for The New York Times, who has lived in Toronto and travelled the country for several years.

Though he feels the attitude has improved a little since the November re-election of President George W. Bush and beginning of the war in Iraq, Krauss said he's noticed this "waving a virtuous finger of superiority" is most pronounced in Ontario.

"I think that the anti-Americanism is part of a regional character that fills a vacuum. The Canadian identity, which in some parts of Canada is quite strong, is not so strong here. I say with some trepidation, because it might sound very arrogant, but there are other places in Canada where the culture is richer and where people are more confident in their culture," said Krauss. And, as he points out, the feeling is ingrained in the national psyche, even if what makes an American ugly to some Canadians changes through time (from isolationist in the early days of World War II to world's cop today).

"It goes back to the American Revolution. It's inbred — the Loyalists coming up here, the fact that there was quite a bit of fighting going on between the United States and Canada," Krauss said. Now fully into character and with my hackles up, I went in a bookstore near Bloor St. and Brunswick Ave., where I asked a man and woman in their late 20s for suggestions of neighbourhoods to walk. It was my very first encounter in this part of the city, and it went like this:

"I've been in town just for a few days. Maybe I'm wrong, but I've noticed a little bit of anti-American sentiment."

"It's an easy target," the man said.

"What is an easy target, Americans?" I asked.

"Yeah, it's an easy go-to," he said. "We're not mucking up the world are we?" Then he and the woman both said, "Ooohhh," evidently enjoying a good dis on me. The way they carried on, I thought they were going to high-five each other.

Other Americans, real Americans, found in the city last week were also unimpressed.

Of a group of six animated St. Louis Cardinals fans sitting behind their home team's dugout at the Rogers Centre, four loved Toronto, but two related their stories of an inhospitable city.

Twenty-one-year-old Kiesha Jones rode in her first Toronto cab. "The (Bangladeshi) cab diver told me Americans was killers," she said. "I'm an American and I'm not a killer."

And at a conference hosted by the International Right of Way Association — attended by scores of Americans in the highway, pipeline and power line construction business — a man from Houston said his wife went to a souvenir store on Queens Quay W. to buy some gifts for their children but left empty-handed after finding a T-shirt that read, "What's the definition of a Canadian? An unarmed American with healthcare."

"We don't particularly like that," the man said.

But Ed Peck, also in town for the conference, liked Torontonians just fine.

If ever there was an American in Toronto, Peck was it.

Moustachioed, athletic build, a tall cowboy hat fit snugly on his head. And unfailingly polite, with a firm handshake to send you off.

"Nobody's said a thing to me. Everybody's been real friendly," said the Houston resident.

Maybe I should've worn a cowboy hat.

"Look forward to coming back," Peck said.

Y'all come back, hear?David Bruser


2 posted on 06/25/2005 10:44:03 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("MON CANARD EST EN FEU!!" -- http://www.schlockmercenary.com/d/20050620.html)
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To: quidnunc
a T-shirt that read, "What's the definition of a Canadian? An unarmed American with healthcare."

Actually not a bad definition, as long as they recognize that it's the armed Americans protecting them who premit them to remain unarmed in a dangerous world, and that the healthcare they are so proud of has its own problems with availability. As in, my heart surgery is all paid for, but I'll have to wait two years for it, by which time I'll be dead.

3 posted on 06/25/2005 10:45:02 AM PDT by Restorer
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To: quidnunc
>>"This is Kensington Market," he added. "It's about the worst place for fellow right-wingers."

After I thanked him for his time and started walking away, he instructed, "Reconsider your views." <,

What?

Makes no sense. . ."fellow right-winger" telling another right-winger to reconsider his views. . .this smells of another rat-lib lie.
4 posted on 06/25/2005 10:45:31 AM PDT by Gunrunner2
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To: quidnunc

I've experienced this kind of thing in Canada even before George Bush became President. I think it's just the way Canadians are.


5 posted on 06/25/2005 10:47:31 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: quidnunc
i have the misfortune of being related through marriage to canadians: insufferably arrogant, unfailingly disparaging to Americans (particularly "stupid American girls"), pontificating at a moment's notice about matters for which they show little knowledge, they frequently travel for pleasure in the states and own property in florida and las vegas.

alas, the wife is ill with alzheimer's. the lack of compassion they show to her is appalling.

what do these facts have in common, i wonder.

6 posted on 06/25/2005 10:48:02 AM PDT by wildwood
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To: quidnunc
I for one no longer travel to places that are un American. Places like Canada, Illinois, West Virginia, California and Vermont.

On the other hand , I no longer welcome Canadian tourist. They are not welcome in my store or If I see them on the street, I pretend I do not see them. Lettem find Elvis' birthplace on their own.
7 posted on 06/25/2005 10:49:01 AM PDT by Bar-Face (Impeach John Paul Stevens, Anthony Kennedy, David Souter, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen Breyer)
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To: Slings and Arrows

The guy with a cowboy hat -- they probably thought he was from Calgary.


8 posted on 06/25/2005 10:49:03 AM PDT by AZLiberty
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To: quidnunc
There is alot of truth about TO being what it is. It is also one of the most presumptious cities I have ever been. It is a NYC wannabe without the character and balls to the walls attitude. It is a city where everyone is from "somewhere else". Arrogant shits all of them. I for one am from Montreal and may argueably be the most anti-american city outside of Havana. Anti-americanism is a state of mind up here because it is so easy to do. Like a recalcitrant child thumbing his nose at a parent, the canadian psyche incubated by a benevolent superpower and having no identifyable enemies (ironic isn't it? If you asked most Canadians if they feared an invasion from the US they would just laugh!)has over the last 50 years lost it's identity as a rugged individualist nation founded on strong protestant traditions.

Canada is a child a petulant one at that. With no responsabilities on the world stage, no enemies threatening it's borders and a people incubated from the harsh realities and dangers facing the US, anti-americanism is something we can do on a lazy afternoon!!

9 posted on 06/25/2005 10:51:04 AM PDT by bubman
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To: AZLiberty
The guy with a cowboy hat -- they probably thought he was from Calgary.

...or probably thought he was going to kick their butts....

10 posted on 06/25/2005 10:53:24 AM PDT by ScreamingFist (Peace through Ignorance)
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To: quidnunc
I have given the following advice to Americans traveling abroad for business: BE the ugly American! We don't want to disappoint our international friends!

When in Belgium on business, greet the natives with 'buon giorno, boys!' Call all the Swiss people you encounter 'Frenchy.' Hum tunes like 'Viva Las Vegas' as you go about your day.

I am convinced that many folks overseas, to a large extent, want to (and indeed may need to) feel superior to and be dismissive of americano visitors. The best defense is to just be dismissive of their dismissiveness.

It's fun!
11 posted on 06/25/2005 10:53:55 AM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: quidnunc
he instructed, "Reconsider your views."

Why would I reconsider a correct viewpoint and replace it with an incorrect viewpoint?

I personally prefer the viewpoint that night is night and day is day, there is a right and a wrong.

To do otherwise would probably leave me on a stoop smoking with no direction or understanding of life. Sheesh

12 posted on 06/25/2005 10:55:10 AM PDT by A message (RINOs and Democrats must be voted out of office for the safety of our nation.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Canada is the answer to a question that noboby bothered to ask. Canada is the result of generations of left-over loyalists following the glorious American revolution. See what this has wrought?

A massive inferiority complex with a flag. Bring on the break-up, we'll pick and choose which parts we'll allow to join the republic, but I warn you, no monarchists here.


13 posted on 06/25/2005 10:57:14 AM PDT by Stand W (Durka Durka Mohammad Jihad Jihad Jihad)
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To: ScreamingFist
...or probably thought he was going to kick their butts....

Or maybe though he had a hidden gun he might use on them. All Americans own guns are are trigger happy y'know, especially Texans. :)

14 posted on 06/25/2005 11:05:30 AM PDT by nosofar
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To: quidnunc
[ While anti-Americanism has long existed in Canada, it seems to many that the attitude has intensified in recent years. ]

"Liberalism" is an ideology of ENVY...
Whether American or Canadian.. Infantile dialectic materialism..

15 posted on 06/25/2005 11:07:29 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been ok'ed me to included some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: quidnunc

Damn, Canadians don't like us Americans, is this where I am supposed to give a shit?


16 posted on 06/25/2005 11:10:58 AM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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To: quidnunc
Image hosted by Photobucket.com i'd be willing to bet $1000 that the sooopid SOB never even read "The Ugly American"!!!
17 posted on 06/25/2005 11:11:00 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: quidnunc
"at the heart of it, I am actually anti-American. I don't like or respect anything the United States and its people stand for or what it is about."

Was last north of the boarder about 15 years ago. Spent a day in Toronto and then went north to visit a friend who was working at a summer camp for inner city kids. At that time the 'natives' were friendlier than this report indicates, especially when you were spending American green instead of their funny (colored) money...

However, times have changed, and I have no future plans to spend my US dollars in the land of the looney, eh... (I vacation in the good 'ol USA...)

Actually, didn't I read sometime back that they did away with the looney?

18 posted on 06/25/2005 11:12:40 AM PDT by NoCmpromiz (Deja Moo - The feeling you've heard this bull before...)
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To: Bar-Face
"I for one no longer travel to places that are un American. Places like Canada, Illinois, West Virginia, California and Vermont."

You'll have to look real hard to find any anti-Americanism in Illinois outside of Chicago. Lots of flags and "Support Our Troops" signs here. Chicago may as well be on the dark side of the Moon for the vast majority of down-state Illinois residents.

19 posted on 06/25/2005 11:15:13 AM PDT by AF68
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To: HitmanNY
I have given the following advice to Americans traveling abroad for business: BE the ugly American! We don't want to disappoint our international friends!

LOL, good point! We have a liberal reporter masquerading as a pro-Bush American asking questions (no doubt with a lisp) to the average liberal slob on the street. Notice the real American wasn't having the slightest problem......things that make you go Hmmmmmmm......

20 posted on 06/25/2005 11:20:03 AM PDT by ScreamingFist (Peace through Ignorance)
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