Posted on 06/24/2005 10:21:16 AM PDT by quidnunc
Thanks for posting the entire piece quidnunc....
I wonder what powers Beavergirl would possess?Can we safely assume they involve wood, teeth, and big (flat) tails?
Well, I think we can safely assume that it involves tail...
True story: My mom is from Minnesota. Once, when she visited my grandmother she brought me home a T-shirt with a cartoon drawing of a beaver standing with his arms wide and the slogan "Be kind to animals. Kiss a beaver." Innocent fool that I was, I wore it to high school until a friend took pity on me and explained it.
She cuts down the woodys.
Does this idiot like any movies?
BATMAN BEGINS ROCKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It was one of the best comic book movies I've ever seen, perhaps one of the best action. I LOVED it!!!!!!!!!
I completely agree. Kevin Conroy (voices Bruce/Batman) and Mark Hamill (voices the Joker) are at their best in those movies.
By the way, are you keeping up with the new episodes of JLU on Cartoon Network on Saturday night, the completely ROCK in quality!!
Liam Neeson's terrorist cult sounds a lot like Osama.
Whose property gets destroyed? Only the hero has his house burned down. etc. etc.
Must disagree with Steyn this time. I thought this was the best on-screen Batman ever. I don't think they should do another after this though, since the last four movies progressively got worse. It should stop on a good note.
Oh, and thanks for putting out the full article. : )
Batman Begins rocked. It is true to the comic. It is a bit condensed for films sake but it is the Dark Knight up there for the first time ever. Only the animated Mask of the Phantasm came close before. It is serious, dark, realistic, and I say again. Conservative.
The parallels with the war on terror are there. Hollywood has made precious few films about the war on terror, I cant think of a any right now. Contrast that with WWII when so many war films came out in support of victory.
Writers learned to mask their messages during mcarthyism, using say aliens or other sci fi stories to hide meanings. Paranoia for instance on a few twilight zone episodes are a good example.
I think that this film may have been similar. Hollywood has a new Mcarthyism. No one must make films supportive of the war on terror. Batman Begins is about resolve against evil.
Even the new bat symbol somewhat resembles the American eagle symbol we all know with the wings oustretched. Does Batman respresent a post 9-11 America in the war on terror?


The Joker card at the end? ....reminds us of the Deck of 52 in Iraq.
The whole theme of confronting fear. Fear is the greatest tool that terrorist use.
Ra's al Ghul wishing to destroy and punish those that are not worthy in his eyes of saving?... Al Qaeda
Batman must keep his resolve, he must learn to maintain his morality even though he must come very close to crossing the line at times.
Bruce Wayne learns to pick himself up again after terrible losses, and never give up!
And going out on a limb here, the love interest in the film,(the only real non-comic character by the way) says when Batman is no longer needed, she can be with him again. Jeez, does she represent the countries like France? when teh war on terror is over, when we have saved the world again that the world community will get along again better? I know, just thinking out loud here, just food for thought. Only the writers know if any of this is intentional. Or could have been uncouncious on their part.
Same here. Sounds like Mark had his knickers in a knot over something and took it out on Batman. Just back from a Saturday matinee. I do not even remember the other Batman movies, but this one will stay with me and I will own it.
Very well rounded plot; top notch cast - the "action" I can take or leave that. But as far as good vs evil - no grey areas here. I'm not even sure that the Rachel character was necessary at all.
I haven't seen 'Begins' yet (wife and I are going tonight), but I would agree that 'Phantasm' is WAY BETTER than the Burton or Schumacher films...if memory serves, I believe Siskel and Ebert gave 'Phantasm' rave reviews, as well. Rent it.
Can we safely assume they involve wood, teeth, and big (flat) tails?
No, we can't. (g,d & r)
I never watched the Batman Begins TV series, but the ROTJ movie doesn't require it. Just be sure to get the uncut version. It isn't for little kids so WB forced a bunch of cuts to it but a copy of the uncut version made it on the net and fans demanded a DVD release. The first (edited) DVD is not nearly as good.
"I seem to recall a Captain Canada, too,"
That would be Captain Canuck. Alas, I was defeated by the Librano$, but I shall return....
What comics do you write?
Gotta disagree with Steyn for once. This film was what Batman films should have been from the start. Excellent film!
Indeed. It's worth noting that the silliness of the 60s TV show reflected the tone of the previous decade or so of comics (though, as it happened, the comics started shifting toward a more serious tone at the time the TV series was on the air).
That's based on the writings of some goofball by the name of Frederic Wertham who wrote a book called Seduction of the Innocent in the 50s. He found gay subtexts in a number of comic books, and one gets the distinct impression that he could find a gay subtext in a dial tone.
The cutting job on the latter has to be one of the stupidest concepts ever. Yeah, I wouldn't let a kid see the uncut version -- but I wouldn't let a kid see the censored version either, and there's just no way to cut that story into a kid-friendly version without reducing it to utter incoherence.
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