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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3
Link to previous thread ^ | 6/23/05 | freepers

Posted on 06/23/2005 10:44:51 AM PDT by stlnative

Previous FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923


Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

Transcript: Natalee's Friends  Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.


Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.


PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)



I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE


Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)


This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.




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Evacuation called off, plane in restricted airspace. Almost evacuated White House again as well,


4,541 posted on 06/29/2005 3:38:05 PM PDT by WestCoastGal
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To: brigette; Howlin; TexKat; maggiefluffs; kcvl

Thank you all for the reporting you do and keeping the information flowing for those of us lurking.
I'm sure I missed many others that are contributing, so thanks to you, too!

I'd also like to take this moment to pat Greta on the back for the darn good sleuthing she is doing on this story.
I have a new respect for her.


4,542 posted on 06/29/2005 3:38:21 PM PDT by RGVTx
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To: RGVTx

Glad to do it! I know what it's like to be away from the "info" and not know what's going on! [Well, sometimes I do! :-)]


4,543 posted on 06/29/2005 3:39:28 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
The investigation has been hampered by the father instructing the three boys on what to say.

So why in the HELL did they let him out of jail?

The PARENTS <----MOTHER!!!!!....> have been "interviewing" his friends about what they have said to the police. (So they can "change their story" as they find out what the evidence is!!)

Are you saying AVDS interviewing his friends and getting them to change their story? I'm dying here!

4,544 posted on 06/29/2005 3:39:49 PM PDT by demkicker (A skunk sat on a stump; the stump thunk the skunk stunk; the skunk thunk the stump stunk.)
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To: Howlin

My head is spinning.....I don't know the timeline! Sounds to me that VDS was telling the boys this right away....but why? If the boys thought Natalee would just show up somewhere, why talk about a body? Why talk about her at all??


4,545 posted on 06/29/2005 3:40:51 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: demkicker

No, I'm saying they called people to THEIR house and the father AND the mother are asking them what they are telling the police that Joran said about Natalee.

Sounds to me like they are trying to "fit" their "story" to what the police know!

And the way she said that -- at least three times -- it sounds like SHE considers that "harming the investigation."


4,546 posted on 06/29/2005 3:41:24 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: demkicker

Caren Janssen chief prosecutor
in Aruba is the "she" we are
listening to on msnbc.


4,547 posted on 06/29/2005 3:42:16 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: Jrabbit

Now you're getting it! If they are now going to try to claim that they just thought she'd turn up and they lied to cover themselves (don't believe it), WHY would he say "No body, no crime."


4,548 posted on 06/29/2005 3:42:21 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
And the way she said that -- at least three times -- it sounds like SHE considers that "harming the investigation."

Aren't there any obstruction of justice laws in Aruba? Can't the police pick up the mother & father for that (and also charge SC while there at it)?

4,549 posted on 06/29/2005 3:44:45 PM PDT by gubamyster
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To: Howlin
Sure seems they were worried about a girl that hadn't even been reported missing yet! Sure, PVDS was surprised when the Twittys showed up
4,550 posted on 06/29/2005 3:45:11 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: TexKat

Oh my, I am just catching up here. Why in the world did the police let the dad out? They knew what he told the boys about 'no body.' And the mother! It's beginning to sound like she was in on the planning! Of getting the story down anyway. And I really felt bad for her. This is just awful. Dreadful. I am sick.


4,551 posted on 06/29/2005 3:45:31 PM PDT by HoHoeHeaux
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To: Jrabbit

sarcasm tag left out! ooops


4,552 posted on 06/29/2005 3:45:46 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: Howlin

That Caren Janssen has got to keep
coming up w/new evidence to produce
to the judge at every hearing, in
order to keep suspects in custody.


4,553 posted on 06/29/2005 3:46:08 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: gubamyster
Aren't there any obstruction of justice laws in Aruba?

No.

There's obstruction of information but carrys no penalties to speak of.

4,554 posted on 06/29/2005 3:47:38 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: Jrabbit
PVDS was surprised when the Twittys showed up

Surprised!? LOL

He was sweating bullets!

4,555 posted on 06/29/2005 3:48:52 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: HoHoeHeaux

Evidently, Joran keeps having to change his story to fit whatever he told his friends. How convienient! His friends tell the parents what they told LE and the parents tell the lawyer who fills Joran in on the details. Another day, another version. grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr


4,556 posted on 06/29/2005 3:49:45 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: Howlin
Surely Caren Janssen will lock up the VDSs because of this! I can't wait to chow down on the news. Guess I'll go tune in.

I've been beating up on the prosecution and they deserve it. For them to have not interviewed all of Joran's friends immediately after Natalee's disappearance and told them to keep mum while the investigation was ongoing is down right negligent, IMO.

4,557 posted on 06/29/2005 3:49:45 PM PDT by demkicker (A skunk sat on a stump; the stump thunk the skunk stunk; the skunk thunk the stump stunk.)
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To: Jrabbit

Exactly. She wasn't suppose to be at the airport until 10:30 for a 12:30 flight.


4,558 posted on 06/29/2005 3:50:55 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: the Deejay

She kept saying "harmed the investigation" though.


4,559 posted on 06/29/2005 3:51:41 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Jrabbit

I agree 100 percent; he had no idea that the Twittys would get on a plane at 6:30 and be in Aruba by 11 P.M.


4,560 posted on 06/29/2005 3:52:21 PM PDT by Howlin
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