Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3

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Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures - 
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923

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Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

Transcript: Natalee's Friends  Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

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Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

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PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

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I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE

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Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)

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This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.

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[kcvl]

Joran emailed him saying "I have something to tell you..."

[spectre]

Calm down, dem. Alot has been made about Paul's sweating wrt his guilt. I don't think it's a factor that would hold up in court, so it's moot.

I could try again to explain why Mickey Johns would tell Depak that Paul VDS had a meeting with all of them on Monday, but you wouldn't believe me anyway. So I won't.

sw

[demkicker]

Paul admitted that Joran complicated things by changing his statement but he thinks that Joran had his reasons for doing that

Another typical inept interviewer. Wouldn't even follow up with a question after that bombshell statement! Couldn't even manage to ask, "What reasons would those be?"

[maggief]

SM:

EXCERPTED

ORANJESTAD (AAN): (snip)

*** So far the family of Rene Michel Van Heyningen can't believe what happened to their love one. Its incredulous that on eor moreperson would have committed sucha attrocious inhumane act. That someone had the audacity too inflict horrible chops to the body of Rene to the magnitude of him bleeding to death.

(snip)

Its dificult to describe the wounds that Rene received at the hands of one or more hoodlums. At the start of the investigation, the girlfriend or live in compananion was suspected of this cruel case. .. Both family and authorities was in the process of finding more info first before pointing finger to the directions of Yesenia (unusual name Smile), the 'girlfriend'

[spectre]

Correction; Why "Depak" would tell "Mickey Johns"..My brain hurts..sw

[demkicker]

I could try again to explain why Mickey Johns would tell Depak that Paul VDS had a meeting with all of them on Monday, but you wouldn't believe me anyway. So I won't.

You mean Deepak telling Mickey Johns that PVDS had a meeting on Monday? Seriously, I must have missed your explanation the first time, so please try again.

[GnuHere]

"Furthermore, I think that PVDS sweating was due to anxiety plus drug use. Cocaine or Methamphetamine use will cause a person to sweat profusely."

So can withdrawal from alcohol or other drugs, if a person suddenly had to clean up his act under close scrutiny. Just a thought.

[spectre]

Get off my back, demkicker.

sw

[toldyou]

Can you explain post #4355?

[demkicker]

I'm still reeling over the Fox New Special Report with Carol McKinley that ran a few minutes ago. Was watching her 'report' while eating my sandwich and almost choked. The big announcement is that the prosecutor isn't ruling out more arrests! Oh, and then the admission that the investigators were going to start checking with Joran's friends from school to see if told them anything about Natalee.

One would think these dumbass incompetent jerks would at least have the sense not to tell the public that they are just now getting around to talking with Joran's friends!

For the life of me, I don't know how the Holloway & Twitty families have been able to refrain from calling a news conference and ticking off the list of bungles to this investigations these fools have made from day 1 of Natalee's disappearance. I'm serious. It's time for the gloves to come off. Being nice hasn't gotten them anywhere.

[Jrabbit]

Who are these people??

[spectre]

See post #4344..

[No Surrender No Retreat]

It is done, and thank you Quilla. NSNR

[Howlin]

Some guy on Fox now saying that some people in Aruba are saying the STEPFATHER needs to be investigated????? Along with an old boy friend of Natalee's who was on the island at the time??

Ridiculous.

[presently no screen name]

Thanks for that info.

Have you come across anything that says what he, Rene Michel Van Heyningen, did for a living?

[CheneyChick]

well IS HE A NUT?

I saw it, and both Mr. CC and I busted up laughing.

[xsmommy]

i love to call people NUTS and hearing greta do it just cracked me up!

[Howlin]

I think he's lying.

In fact, I think everybody in Aruba, with the exception of Natalee's family and Greta, are lying.

[xsmommy]

oh he's lying thru his dang teeth, no doubt about it. that's why greta put it that way, either he's a NUT or a liar, and he ain't no nut!

[PBRSTREETGANG]

Some guy on Fox now saying that some people in Aruba are saying the STEPFATHER needs to be investigated????? Along with an old boy friend of Natalee's who was on the island at the time??

Is that the same pompous clown who thought that they should give lie detector tests to Natalees family and friends?