Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3

Link to previous thread ^ | 6/23/05 | freepers

[af_vet_1981]

"He says, 'Mom, I dropped the girl at the beach. I walked with her. I left her there because she wanted to stay there. I left and I don't know what happened. There my statement ends,'" Anita van der Sloot said. Anita van der Sloot didn't say which beach. When asked if Joran had changed his initial story, she replied, "Joran changed his story only one time. I think he was scared because he sneaked out of the house that evening. I think he was scared and wanted to cover other people too. He changed his story once and added details." 340 posted on 06/23/2005 5:56:20 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

It sounds like she is lying now. I initially thought she had nothing to do with the case. Now I think she wants to obstruct it so the perps can go free.

[stlnative]

If there is never a body found then convicting any of them will be very hard. PVDS would know this and he probably knew to make sure they got rid of her body and everything would blow over. The story about the security guards might have been dreamed up by the father and he may have told the boys to say it. I just keep thinking that there was a meeting between all 3 boys and the father. The boys would be included because Joran might have called Deepak first (one hour after Deepak drop them at the beach). The father may have come into the picture during the panic, either they took Natalee to Joran house or they stashed her body on the beach and drove back to Joran's house to wake his father up. However it went down I really believe the father helped get rid of her body.

Pushing Joran to school on Monday would have been his fathers idea so that everything seemed normal in Joran's life.

If they all keep quiet then there won't be anyone convicted unless they find some hard evidence (like her body or a crime scene with her DNA all over it).

I just hope that the brother played no part in killing her and that they start telling everything they know and quit covering for Joran now that his father is in jail. They also may know what happened to Natalee's body and they may feel that Joran will walk free, so they are still keeping tight lipped.

[kcvl]

VDS's dad will be held another 48 hours per Fox News.

[TexKat]

Fox News confirming that Paulus Van Der Sloot will remain incarcerated for another 48 hours.

[kcvl]

Thank you for keeping up with all of this and pinging me to the threads. I really appreciate it.

[demkicker]

So let's put 2 & 2 together....bet ya' it came from Natalee's Mom's 90 minute conversation with Joran's parents. Beth gleened some info then she gave it to either the police or her Aruban Attorney ... anyway it was turned over to the police. That's why she didn't keep the 3PM appointment yesterday...she knew what was probably up and knew she'd gotten some inconsistencies from Joran's Dad.

I think you just answered the $64,000.00 question! It makes sense that Beth picked up on a crucial inconsistency but pretended she wanted to meet with them again the next day. Beth probably made the information known to either the FBI or some contact with the Aruban authorities. I can't wait for everything to unfold and see if we can confirm this hunch.

[maggief]

From the community webshots link:

This one titled "on Steve's boat"

http://community.webshots.com/photo/303774481/303790129keaFOC

http://community.webshots.com/album/303774481pOrWjl/3

http://community.webshots.com/album/303774481pOrWjl/4

[TexKat]

Linda Allison, Natalees aunt is talking about Paulus sweating and wringing his hands when Greta and Holloway-Twitty was at the VDS. Also discussing Paulus's attitude at the hotel toward Jug. Linda states that they have gotten only bits and pieces. She states that they pray and God gives them strength to carry on. They have hope that Natalee is still alive. It may be possible that Natalee was kidnapped and who ever has her they could be moving her from house to house is Linda's answer to a question that was posed to her by Alan Colmes.

[demkicker]

Fox News confirming that Paulus Van Der Sloot will remain incarcerated for another 48 hours.

Thanks, TexKat, I'm on FR and away from the t.v., but have been wondering if daddy sloot would be let go. I'm very glad he's being held longer.

[TexKat]

I know that you do kcvl. My heart goes out to you as well as Natalee's family and friends.

[TexKat]

Wonder who Steve was closest to Deepak or Joran?

[demkicker]

Linda Allison, Natalees aunt is talking about Paulus sweating and wringing his hands when Greta and Holloway-Twitty was at the VDS.

I also noticed that daddy sloot was sweating profusely during the Greta interview. Someone said on an earlier post that it sure was convenient that the telephone rang and daddy sloot took the opportunity to leave the interview altogether.

He was obviously very uncomfortable and nervous. His body language spelled "guilty" if you ask me. I doubt daddy sloot has even told his wife the truth, but he definitely has crucial information involving his son, and may have helped get rid of Natalee (dead or alive). If not, and he's innocent, Joran will start talking to protect his dad, IMO.

[maggief]

Okay, perhaps I'm a tad naive. I think I now get the Cn'C/Tatto m.o. They play the drinking games, the girls get on stage for the booty games, some regular locals arrive around last call to hit on the loaded tourists.

Here's the main page of the photo album I posted earlier, includes pics from Cn'C:

http://community.webshots.com/album/303774481pOrWjl/4

[TexKat]

Anita van der Sloot speaks to the press shortly after her husband Paul van der Sloot was detained in connection with the disappearance of Alabama teen Natalee Holloway, just weeks after her son Joran, 17, was taken into custody in connection with the same case, at her home in Noord, Aruba, Thursday, June 23, 2005. Paul van der Sloot is a judicial official on the Dutch Caribbean island. (AP Photo/Leslie Mazoch)

Marcia Twitty talks with reporters about the latest arrest in the case of missing niece Natalee Holloway, Thursday, June 23, 2005, in Mountain Brook, Ala. Holloway was last seen during a graduation trip to Aruba on May 30. Twitty is standing in front of a 'wall of hope' erected for the teenager. (AP Photo/Jay Reeves)

[maggief]

oops, correct link:

http://community.webshots.com/user/shhhhakaron

[stlnative]

that's him for sure

[TexKat]

convenient that the telephone rang

If I remember correctly the phone rang both times that Greta was there.

[bonfire]

Thank you brigette.

[TexKat]

Okay, perhaps I'm a tad naive. I think I now get the Cn'C/Tatto m.o. They play the drinking games, the girls get on stage for the booty games, some regular locals arrive around last call to hit on the loaded tourists.

Better late than never maggiefluffs, lol.

Once I saw all the pictures I sort of knew what was happening. I have a daughter that graduated high school 2 years ago. When she was in highschool she was in the band. They had a lot of outings and quite a few social gatherings, plus the yearly battle of the bands. I chaperoned just about 90% of these outings and when I was not chaperoning I was still present. On alot of these occasions there were these sleez ball individuals (men and women) that would show up passing out fliers inviting our teenagers to these booty girl parties.

We had a band dance for the band members one year at a hotel and across the hall one of these booty parties was being held. I patrolled the hallway and it was not easy to keep some and some I was unsuccessful of keeping our 18 year olds from leaving our band dance and joining the booty party. The only thing that brought them back to the band dance was a fight that broke out at the booty party, (2 booty girls fighting).

[demkicker]

If I remember correctly the phone rang both times that Greta was there.

Did she mention it rang when they weren't on camera with Beth's interview? I don't remember Greta reporting about it, but there are so many nuances about his case, I can barely keep up!

I do have a very good feeling about daddy sloot's arrest though. Joran should be cracking as we speak or at least in the next few hours.