Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3

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Previous FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures - 
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923

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Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

Transcript: Natalee's Friends  Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

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Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

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PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

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I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE

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Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)

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This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.

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[Howlin]

I think you are right.

And I think you could justifiably say "judicial inbreeding" could be another reason.

[the Deejay]

they need someone who doesn't know him to decide the case.

lawdy!...this can go on forever and a day.

[Bush gal in LA]

I read the atm story on one the crime blogs discussing the case. Nothing was proven though. If the atm records show activity on the fathers card at 300 am and 3.45 who's to say the son didn't go in the fathers pants and swipe the card from the dad.If he sneaks out of the house,drinks in bars illegally and gambles in the casinos illegally this doesn't seem like a big stretch for me to believe that he'd steal the dads card!

[the Deejay]

It's been my understanding that
Deepak's 18 & Sastish is 20-something.

[monkeywrench]

Presently no screen name, I wanted to see how dutch judicial appointments work, so I googled it, and got this page. http://www.nichibenren.or.jp/en/activities/meetings/20030202_2.html

[stlnative]

Good Question... I heard last week that he was suspended. He must be considered a civil servant. That means when he started studying to be judge someone had to fill his civil servant job (maybe he was mailman or a teacher). Did they bump that person out and give PVDS back his old job? All this happened so quick (remember with in one week before Natalee came up missing) so maybe they just decided to suspend him and keep the person who is in JVDS old job where they are at.

[the Deejay]

And, too, maybe dad let's the
kid use the ATM card.

[Howlin]

Well, I guess I'm wrong about that, TOO, today!

I may have to regroup!

[the Deejay]

I heard it stated the other
night, PVDS has been
a teacher of law.

[stlnative]

Deepak is older (21) and shorter
Satish is younger (19) and taller

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y84/patchworkpiecer/deepak_satish_1.jpg

[presently no screen name]

Thanks. I read that earlier (perhaps you posted it ) but didn't remember it!

I thought you might have known off-hand. But thanks for the research.

[the Deejay]

The mom said their names/ages
in an 'view w/Greta and that's
how I remembered.
Before that, I had them confused.

[Gracey]

Jug also said they don't get Fox down there and in fact he told the FBI about some of the things he's heard.
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I thought anyone could get FOXNews if they have satellite dish.

[Bush gal in LA]

Your right about that!

[the Deejay]

I have FOXNews on cable & satellite dish.

[demkicker]

The beautiful thing about Casino's is that they have have video camera's EVERYWHERE every single second of every single day :)

Great point, and texasbluebell made the same one regarding the ATM machine. Will be interesting to find out if PvdS or Joran withdrew the money.

As far as the $360.00. I thought I read where one of the Kalpoes or Joran said that Natalie told Joran she had lost $360.00 of her daddy's money and asked him to try and win some of it back. Probably just another lie.....

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FR mail

[Gracey]

We were in Aruba last week. The jeep tour guide told us that the sharks are only on one side of the island. Why? don't know.
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Thought I heard it's because the island dumps their garbage on that side, and sharks are scavengers.

[Conservative Texan Mom]

They are bringing him over from Coracao. It's a neighboring island, very close to Aruba. It has a larger population, and much more industrialized. Maybe they bringing him over because of the high profile this case has taken, especially since PVDS was arrested.

[GrannyAnnie]

yes, flow chart is good idea. I can't keep up with all the news in a day (I usually have only about 10-15 minutes of freep time a day)
btw, the judgements of God are sure (even when our judicial system blows it) And He knows where Natalee is.