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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3
Link to previous thread ^ | 6/23/05 | freepers

Posted on 06/23/2005 10:44:51 AM PDT by stlnative

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To: spectre

Don't ATM's in Aruba have video-cams? The police would see on tape whether it was Joran or Paul using the card.


1,441 posted on 06/25/2005 10:39:29 AM PDT by Palladin (God Bless America!)
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To: Andy'smom; sarasota; cyborg; kcvl; brigette; maggiefluffs; No Surrender No Retreat; ...
This is replaying now on Fox News. Greta stated that PVDS was the one to inform her about he and Joran being in the HI casino bar.

I wonder if that is where his story changed from what he had told LE and caught the ears of LE.

1,442 posted on 06/25/2005 10:40:45 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Palladin

Jeez! I meant "probable" cause.

Now I'm speaking pistachiomento, or whatever that Aruban lingo is.


1,443 posted on 06/25/2005 10:41:03 AM PDT by Palladin (God Bless America!)
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To: maggiefluffs

They have to leave b/c of
all influx of tourists
arriving for vacation.

Although, I do think some
of them are just curious
and want to be in the
thick of things.


1,444 posted on 06/25/2005 10:41:13 AM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: Palladin
Ah yeah, I forgot about his yacht.

He could let Greta stay on his yacht.

1,445 posted on 06/25/2005 10:42:26 AM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: maggiefluffs
Yes, he is there !! (doesn't that make everything right with the world ! )

One good thing tho...he don't follow Rita the Breathless.

1,446 posted on 06/25/2005 10:42:58 AM PDT by Neenah
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To: brigette; All
The town gossip..... yes that's what everyone knew her as, the "town gossip". She was curious about every family's problems.

Then one cold January evening when I was 13 years old, my father jumped to his death from a bridge. My family was unlucky enough to have the "town gossip" living right across the road from us. The very next morning.... bright and early and bitterly cold, the "town gossip" found it oddly necessary to traipse across the road to question my broken-hearted mother on the details she was unfortunate not to find in the local morning paper. It was disgusting and very, very sad for my mother.

There are a few of those "town gossips" on this thread, if I may say so, the kind of people who have not enough in their lives, they must spend a great deal of their time on threads such as these.

Darn, how would the world be without "town gossips" howling and speculating about others' unfortunate situations.

This world would be better if the "town gossips" would go read a good book.

1,447 posted on 06/25/2005 10:44:56 AM PDT by beyond the sea (No more legitimate hearing room ever again, Conyers......... to the broom closet ! ;-))
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To: Palladin
We know that Pappa VDS thought Joran was home in bed after 11pm.

If someone did use the ATM, then it was only Joran or his father. I could be wrong.

I don't think that Pappa deliberately set out to connect with Joran and Natalee in the early hours. My speculation is that he was just the clean up guy..It's all I can think of :(

sw

1,448 posted on 06/25/2005 10:45:22 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: GarySpFc
Hey...you Spec Ops people are some kinda courageous. Salute to you. I know...but my husband was a Marine (then switched to USCG) for years. So I am partial to Semper Fi. LOL

You wrote: Rape has nothing to do with love...

And, you are right that rape has nothing to do with love -- for sure! Who said that it did? Ugh, not me I hope I did not infer that. But, I don't think rape or "love" are even part of this. Certainly there was not enough time to have real love.

And, it has never been proven what their time on the beach involved. It could be as innocent as two teens, behaving as teens do sometimes, filled with the hormones, excitement, delight of a night in paradise, and the thoughts of the end to a vacation. Without any intimate sex involved, but just the playfulness of petting. I think it would be hard for me to feel for sure they had sex. I am not naive, I know that happens, of course, but until proven I just cannot state for sure. They could have just been sitting, talking, petting, and sharing thoughts.

I am not going to assume they had sex of the full nature. Sure they could have. It could have been consensual or not. I do not want to judge either of them on that issue. Teens have sex, sure, but a lot of time they just like to be together.

1,449 posted on 06/25/2005 10:46:22 AM PDT by CitizenM ("An excuse is worse than an lie, because an excuse is a lie hidden." Pope John Paul, II)
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To: the Deejay; maggiefluffs; bonfire; spectre; TexKat

OH NO.............NOT GERALDO!!!


1,450 posted on 06/25/2005 10:47:37 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: beyond the sea

Buzz off.


1,451 posted on 06/25/2005 10:48:20 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Palladin
Natalee Holloway a wòrdu asesiná ?

Latest developments (Saturday):According to Natalee's aunt on Larry King (CNN) on Friday, some psychics have been in contact with Beth Holloway, but they have not provided any solid information (yet). Part of the transcript:

CALLER: Hi, my question is for Kelly. Has any thought been given to possibly bringing in a psychic to help?

HOLLOWAY: To my knowledge, they have had a psychic come in. I don't know what the outcome of that was.

KLAAS: It's a waste of time and it's a waste of resource.

KING: Why?

KLAAS: Because they don't find anybody. We had a million psychics. Here's what these folks want. They want a free ticket to Aruba. They want a free vacation. I would stay far away, leave this to the professionals.

KING: Stacey, have you ever used a psychic in an investigation?

HONOWITZ: I never used a psychic in an investigation, and I think basically what they really need are good interrogators. I mean, Michael knows that there are police officers, detectives, and Marc knows this, that are specially trained in interrogations. And over there, as I said before, we don't know how sophisticated the police force is. They certainly haven't seen a crime like this before, and I think bringing in the behavioral specialists, along with very, very talented interrogators is going to be the answer to this case.

Whole transcript can be found here

We had contact with Dan Riehl and he told us that he conducted an intreview with F as well. You can see it here.

1,452 posted on 06/25/2005 10:48:40 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: ncpatriot
I agree. I also think the "press" (meaning FOX) will get blamed for alot. That Greta is a little bloodhound !!!!!!!

I just bet the Govt. is tearing their hair out now that THE AMERICANS have landed and are on their tail .

1,453 posted on 06/25/2005 10:48:40 AM PDT by Neenah
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To: varina davis
"First I've heard about the man NH met on her flight to Aruba! And this isn't being investigated??!!"

Amazing isn't it. I heard that for the first time last night on Greta (who else!) She said they were following up on this because this man has not left the island and hasn't been found yet. Of course as fast as the news is moving on this story, this may have been solved already. I don't know.

1,454 posted on 06/25/2005 10:50:36 AM PDT by WestCoastGal (Is the driver of the 8 car the MOST sexy driver? Only his fans and FOX know for sure!!!!!!!!)
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To: Howlin
Guilty conscience?

You're illustrating some of the Hillary paranoia.

1,455 posted on 06/25/2005 10:51:22 AM PDT by beyond the sea (No more legitimate hearing room ever again, Conyers......... to the broom closet ! ;-))
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To: maggiefluffs
They had to leave their hotel rooms because they were booked. So they were all running around trying to find another place to stay.

Greta said.

1,456 posted on 06/25/2005 10:53:26 AM PDT by Neenah
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To: Howlin
OH NO.............NOT GERALDO!!!

Unfortunately this should be fun and/or teeth griting eye penetrating disgusting.

1,457 posted on 06/25/2005 10:53:37 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Howlin
If you think that applies to you, so be it.

Is there a library nearby?

;-)

1,458 posted on 06/25/2005 10:54:40 AM PDT by beyond the sea (No more legitimate hearing room ever again, Conyers......... to the broom closet ! ;-))
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To: beyond the sea
You're out of your element here, BS..But I can assure you that those OTHER threads you love to post to, with their TOWN GOSSIP make these look tame.

sw

1,459 posted on 06/25/2005 10:55:17 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: Howlin
NOT GERALDO!!!

LOL! Ah yes, indeedy. Taking his yaaaccchhhhttttttt.

Just hope he doesn't screw up.

1,460 posted on 06/25/2005 10:55:26 AM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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