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1 posted on 06/23/2005 8:07:27 AM PDT by Stew Padasso
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To: Stew Padasso

This ABSOLUTELY APPALLING.

I read this about a half hour ago and just sat in silence at my computer, totally steamed. They are going to go hog wild in my city. Anywhere they want to shore up that tax base, they might just raze your house and bring in retailer.

Sickening.


346 posted on 06/23/2005 10:46:51 AM PDT by buckleyfan (WFB, save us!)
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To: Stew Padasso; BerthaDee; teenyelliott; cowboyway
I was just looking at the political affiliations (party registrations) of the 9 justices. There are only two registered Democrats, yet the media always report the court split 5-4 in favor of conservatives. Either Bush 1 erred in his appointments, or the political philosophy of our oldest appointments has eroded. I choose to believe the latter.

This decision is completely against all that is right with America and continues the downfall of American ideals and freedoms.

Any private developer can now petition the city and attempt to implement condemnation proceedings using the only excuse available of economic development through jobs and tax revenue. Again the root of all evil is money.

The only positive, and I am stretching here, is that the court has ruled that the city has a wide range of power here. Not only can they abuse it, but they can also positively utilize it. For example, Wichita, Kansas has never, if memory serves correctly, condemned a neighborhood for development. In fact, they are actively against this sort of practice and choose to apply their power in favor of the owners. Choosing a city and being aware of their city policies has never been more important.

There should be some legislation passed that requires a developer to prove that the land he is attempting to purchase is the only piece available for this type development. All avenues should be exhausted before the city takes land from an unwilling owner. Even after this has been accomplished' my personal belief is "too bad so sad" for the developer, but at least this prevents the blatant abuses I fear will ensue from this erroneous decision made by our highest court.

I have been involved in two condemnation cases in this town in the capacity of an appraiser for the city. Both were for highway improvements. Both property owners were over compensated, but I still respect their right to keep it. Unfortunately, their only argument was strictly about the value.

363 posted on 06/23/2005 10:58:33 AM PDT by carolinacrazy (What?!...That could never happen in a.... world.)
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To: Stew Padasso

BUMP!!!


364 posted on 06/23/2005 10:59:36 AM PDT by shellshocked (They're undocumented Border Patrol agents, not vigilantes.)
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This may rub people the wrong way but..remember the way you felt reading about this ruling. With your deeply held convictions about limited Federal Governement.

The next time our congress grants the right of the FCC to dictate what goes on over the public airwaves, without setting guidelines and just arbitrarily fining broadcasters for whatever they deem inappropriate.

As a young adult I've grown more and more outraged with each encroachment on our liberties granted by GOD -- not by a group of men in suits. I know it's hard for some to stomach because decisions like the upping of FCC fines are considered 'greater good' enticements. But remember, it's encroaching on others liberties.

Also, as with here in central Ohio when an unruly mob passes a levy stating that private business owners can't allow their patrons to smoke...for the 'greater good'.

Your antenna should go up EVERY TIME this crap happens..not just selectively.

366 posted on 06/23/2005 11:00:22 AM PDT by soundandvision
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To: Stew Padasso

Once again while conservatives attempt to protect individuals from government, liberals assert government rights and power over individuals.


369 posted on 06/23/2005 11:01:24 AM PDT by MNnice
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To: Stew Padasso; Squantos; Travis McGee; Chapita; NerdDad; vetvetdoug; dtel
FIFTH AMENDMENT [U.S. Constitution] - 'No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb, nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use without just compensation.

I am very worried what the supremes will do to the rest of the fifth!

They have been taking money, cars, planes etc. from people for years under the drug laws, but none complained because they were stealing from evil people.

377 posted on 06/23/2005 11:10:15 AM PDT by razorback-bert
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I suggest we find wealthy Republicans and a list of property holdings for the 5 judges who ruled this way (and their relatives) and start seizing ever piece of property they own.


381 posted on 06/23/2005 11:12:39 AM PDT by superdad
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To: Jeff Head; Minuteman23

Read it and weep. I found myself on the literal verge of doing so after the reading.


383 posted on 06/23/2005 11:13:42 AM PDT by joanie-f (Those who hope in the Lord will renew their strength ... they will run and not grow weary ...)
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Does anyone really think that we shouldn't fight to get conservative judges on the SCOTUS


387 posted on 06/23/2005 11:18:24 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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This has been an issue for some time since a town in CT stopped a church from developing a piece of land so that a retail business could buy it and develop it. The reasons cited were that the business was better for the community because it offered jobs and paid taxes. The church said it is discriminatory and wrong. This was over 20 years ago according to my Pastor and it happens every day in the USA where churches are denied permits but private businesses are allowed to build.
394 posted on 06/23/2005 11:29:30 AM PDT by Final Authority
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To: Stew Padasso
Unbelievable! We really are losing our rights at an exponential speed. I couldn't believe the decision on Campaign Finance Reform and now this has happened. It is chilling. However I fear most people will never hear nor care until it is their home that is endangered. Sad day for the USA.
408 posted on 06/23/2005 11:48:53 AM PDT by pepperdog
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To: Stew Padasso

BOHICA

[Bend Over, Here It comes Again]


#^&$%*@$ And I was having such a nice day.


422 posted on 06/23/2005 12:07:50 PM PDT by HKMk23 (PROP 65. WARNING: This post may contain ideas known to the State of California to be conservative.)
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To: Stew Padasso

What are we going to do about this? What can we do?

I'll tell you, I'll be first in line for a campaign to get a Constitutional amendment reversing this absolute garbage. I hope this turns into a full-fledged movement. We need web sites, email petitions to senators and congressmen, everything. This issue affects everybody. Not just homeowners, but those who care about the neighborhoods and cities they live in, and have an interest in individual rights (or the erosion thereof).


425 posted on 06/23/2005 12:08:41 PM PDT by buckleyfan (WFB, save us!)
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To: Stew Padasso

Second Amendment bump


435 posted on 06/23/2005 12:26:56 PM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: Temple Owl

ping


437 posted on 06/23/2005 12:27:53 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Stew Padasso

This is so wrong. It is absolutely wrong, wrong, wrong!

Locke's discussion on the right not to have property taken away being a corollary to and necessary to liberty rather than slavery has been thrown out of the law in the United States of America.

Of course, local law can be changed - easier than Federal law. But, I can't believe the audacity - the highhandedness of this Supreme Court.


445 posted on 06/23/2005 12:41:33 PM PDT by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US)
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To: Stew Padasso

If this doesn't expose the hypocrisy of liberalsim, I don't know what will. It is interesting that the supposed liberals on this court...and those who pretend to look out for the little people vs Big Business, have essentially taken the side of Big Business over the little people.


459 posted on 06/23/2005 12:59:20 PM PDT by cwb
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To: Stew Padasso

From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs.

I have never seen such a blatant step towards communism in the United States in my lifetime. How much more are we going to take before we take action?


462 posted on 06/23/2005 1:02:34 PM PDT by SerpentDove
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To: Stew Padasso

I'm trying to recall that Thomas Jefferson quote about the Tree of Liberty being watered by the Blood of Tyrants.


463 posted on 06/23/2005 1:04:05 PM PDT by SerpentDove
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Hey, archy... if you've not already pinged the CWII list, this might be worthy material.

What was the name of that fellow up in the New England area who got really tired of being shoved around by municipal authorities? Something to do with his trying to stave off water erosion on his riverfront land, IIRC. While not fully on-point with regard to eminent domain issues, his story might still be of interest to those in this forum.

468 posted on 06/23/2005 1:08:44 PM PDT by Charles Martel
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