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GOP Centrists Promote Guilani [for '08 Prez bid, McCain expected to lead big in new Zogby Poll]
The Hill ^ | 6/23/05 | GeoffEarle

Posted on 06/23/2005 7:48:32 AM PDT by gopwinsin04

As Bush's poll numbers sag, and Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's rise, some congressional Republicans are taking a fresh look at former New York Mayor Rudy Giulaini, a social centrist with national recognition in stature.

Guiliani earns near-universal admiration among congressional Republicans--an important constituency in the race for the nomination.

But even his biggest boosters cannot say for sure whether a big city mayor who supports abortion rights can win over the social conservatives who hold overwhelming sway within the GOP.

The key question according to pollster John Zogby is 'How strong will the Christian conservatives be? Will they be able to block Rudy, or for that matter, Sen. McCain? That is the $64,000 question.'

A new poll being released today by Zogby International is expected to show McCain moving ahead with a substantial lead over the GOP field--a reflection of the attention gained by deals brokered on judicial nominations and his role as a spokesman on national security issues.

McCain holds double digit leads in head to head matchups against Sens. Hillary Clinton and John Kerry, but Guilani had been running a strong second to McCain.

Guilani led McCain by three percentage points in last weeks Fox News poll, getting support from 29 percent of respondants to McCain's 26, followed by House Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-Ga. at 9 percent)

(Excerpt) Read more at hillnews.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; US: New York
KEYWORDS: corruptgoombah; giussolini; guilani2008; mccain2008; pol; rino; zogby
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A helping of Zogby's special sauce for McLame incoming later today!
1 posted on 06/23/2005 7:48:33 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: gopwinsin04
McCain will NOT win the nomination. Neither will Rudy, or Newt. It's gonna be someone we're not really thinking about yet.

*cough* Mike Pence *cough*

2 posted on 06/23/2005 7:52:04 AM PDT by RockinRight (Conservatism is common sense, liberalism is just senseless.)
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To: gopwinsin04

Rudy? Fuhgedaboutit!


3 posted on 06/23/2005 7:52:18 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (LET ME DIE ON MY FEET IN MY SWAMP, ALEX KOZINSKI FOR SCOTUS)
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To: RockinRight

Condi maybe?


4 posted on 06/23/2005 7:54:56 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: gopwinsin04

Perhaps...she's been looking better lately (candidate-wise).


5 posted on 06/23/2005 7:55:20 AM PDT by RockinRight (Conservatism is common sense, liberalism is just senseless.)
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To: gopwinsin04
Condi maybe?

At this point I'd say she has more experience than Her Hilliaryness.

6 posted on 06/23/2005 7:55:56 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: RockinRight

I think Condi will probably pull a Liddy Dole and modify her position on life issues if she is going to make a run for it.


7 posted on 06/23/2005 7:56:39 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: gopwinsin04

George Allen. Make it 3-out-of-4 "Georges" since 1988. He's very good.


8 posted on 06/23/2005 7:56:47 AM PDT by Migraine
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(The key question according to pollster John Zogby is 'How strong will the Christian conservatives be? Will they be able to block Rudy, or for that matter, Sen. McCain? That is the $64,000 question.')

Answer: Yes, Christian conservatives will be able to block Rudy, and McCain has no chance in heck.

Can I now collect my $64K Mr. Zogby?


9 posted on 06/23/2005 7:56:47 AM PDT by winner3000 (part)
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To: gopwinsin04

Mmmmmmm, mmmmm, mmmmm. More Zogby Special Sauce.


10 posted on 06/23/2005 7:56:52 AM PDT by SmithL (There are a lot of people that hate Bush more than they hate terrorists)
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To: RockinRight
Who is Mike Pence?

If people have to ask that question, at this point, the guy doesn't have a prayer.

11 posted on 06/23/2005 7:57:30 AM PDT by sinkspur (If you want unconditional love with skin, and hair and a warm nose, get a shelter dog.)
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I don't think her view is as bad as it sounds. My take is that she is pro-life but understands that simply outlawing abortion can't and won't happen anytime soon. Also she seems like a RILOM type (Rape, Incest, Life of Mother).

In other words, she could pull it off.


12 posted on 06/23/2005 7:57:51 AM PDT by RockinRight (Conservatism is common sense, liberalism is just senseless.)
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To: Migraine

Allen does have the bucks, but zero recognition nationally. A good one for the VP slot though


13 posted on 06/23/2005 7:58:05 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: RockinRight

Rudi or Jeb with
Condi as VP in '08 would be absolutely unbeatable.


14 posted on 06/23/2005 7:59:50 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: sinkspur

Congressman from Indiana. As Reaganesque as you can get without being the Gipper himself. He could pull it off.


"Who the hell is Jimmy Carter?"

-Average American, Summer 1973


"I, James Earl Carter..."

-President Jimmy Carter, Inauguration Day 1977


15 posted on 06/23/2005 8:00:39 AM PDT by RockinRight (Conservatism is common sense, liberalism is just senseless.)
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To: Migraine

George Allen is my bet too!


16 posted on 06/23/2005 8:00:39 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- J.C. for OK Governor; Allen in 2008)
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To: SmithL

17 posted on 06/23/2005 8:01:57 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: gopwinsin04

There is about as much chance of a moderate Republican winning the GOP nomination as there is of a moderate Democrat winning their's.


18 posted on 06/23/2005 8:02:12 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: sinkspur
Mike Pence is by far and away the best candidate we have.He is the only candidate that can win the support of the entire right.It is not important that people know who he is now(it is actually a plus)It is important that they know who he is in 08.
19 posted on 06/23/2005 8:02:24 AM PDT by Gipper08 (Mike Pence in 2008)
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To: RockinRight
Carter won because of the Nixon resignation.

There's nothing similar on the horizon that an obscure politician like Pence could take advantage of.

Besides, the GOP has two high-powered superstars in Rudi and McCain who will never let anybody else gain any traction.

It will be one of those two.

20 posted on 06/23/2005 8:03:07 AM PDT by sinkspur (If you want unconditional love with skin, and hair and a warm nose, get a shelter dog.)
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