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To: RightWhale
This is the Fifth Amendment:

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

You could just as easily ask me to show you the statement that supports my view that your right to be alive is explicitly granted...

If the government cannot deprive you of property without due process of law, nor take it except for public use and without just compensation, then by default private property is explicitly granted.

You are approaching all this from a post-Marxism perspective. That's your main error. ;^)

191 posted on 06/23/2005 8:30:57 AM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: AntiGuv

The right to life is also in doubt with the TS case. The case of private property is ducked in the 5th Amendment. it is something already there. That is the major source of the problem in the western states. The Mining Law of 1876 was passed to clarify property rights, but private ownership in all western states seems to be at the pleasure of the Fed Gov through mining claims, homestead claims, and townsites. Patent could be withdrawn at any time as the Fed Gov has the ultimate Right of Way everywhere.


224 posted on 06/23/2005 8:38:56 AM PDT by RightWhale (withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty)
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To: AntiGuv

The Conservables (and their allies, the Liberatives) have been against this amendment from the start. Required to give one's name to LEO even though not charged with crime; property seized if it might be valuable enough to be result of drug deal; torture of terrorist suspects or those who checked out the wrong book; seizure of property if the renter used it improperly, etc.

No surprise here; just a small change in the term "public benefit."


382 posted on 06/23/2005 9:25:56 AM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: AntiGuv
If the government cannot deprive you of property without due process of law, nor take it except for public use and without just compensation, then by default private property is explicitly granted.

If a property developer owns the city council and local judges, a veneer of "due process" will be effected in a kangaroo court. Your property will be seized and the paper work will be done in a completely "legal" fashion. It may be immoral as hell, but it will be legal. The Supreme Court has extended a license for government to steal private property.

537 posted on 06/23/2005 10:40:50 AM PDT by Myrddin
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