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1 posted on 06/23/2005 4:34:29 AM PDT by Mo1
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As one anti-Bush Christian recently told Wallis, "It's easier to 'come out' as a gay person in Boston than as a religious person in the Democratic Party."

Well duh! Boston and Massachusetts embraces the homosexual agenda, while the modern democrat party shuns religious people like lepers.

2 posted on 06/23/2005 4:39:10 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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Christian Alliance For Progress

Snort.

3 posted on 06/23/2005 4:40:44 AM PDT by mewzilla
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I never heard of Tim Simpson the minister from Florida.

But any preacher who heads for Washington just to attack other preachers and make his mark in turning religion into political war isnt much of a preacher.


4 posted on 06/23/2005 4:41:48 AM PDT by sgtbono2002
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Depicting the Democrats as godless is still a GOP tactic

And one that is very easy to do as Democrats fight against;

1. All Public Prayer.
2. All Public religious symbols.
3. The Pledge of Alligence.
4. Any Restrictions on Abortion
5. Defining marriage between a man and a woman.
6. The right of Churches to make free speech.

5 posted on 06/23/2005 4:41:54 AM PDT by Always Right
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A little early here, but this entire article does not depict in any way the true religious followers of this country. If there are religious left voters, they have always been that way. No quoting from the Bible or any other rhetoric from the left will change anything.
6 posted on 06/23/2005 4:41:59 AM PDT by poobear
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so where do these Christians come down on abortion, gay marriage, and smut soaked hollywood?

It's funny that the article didn't mention these issues.

7 posted on 06/23/2005 4:43:24 AM PDT by Pietro
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A Christian and the Demoncratic Party do not mix.
8 posted on 06/23/2005 4:46:11 AM PDT by GulfWar1Vet ("If you are ashamed to stand by your colors, you had better seek another flag." ~ Author unknown)
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Simpson said at the Press Club launch,... . We don't believe that people should have to check their faith tradition at the door of the public arena."

Oh yeah? Tell that to Teddy the Swimmer and the other Dems who persist in blocking nominees to the Federal Courts because their strong personal religious beliefs happen to differ from the Dem members of the Judiciary Committee, and other leading Dems in the Senate and House.

9 posted on 06/23/2005 4:47:20 AM PDT by SuziQ
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Howard Dean (head Democrat) just last week: Republicans "all behave the same, and they all look the same. ... It's pretty much a white Christian party. "

And you wonder why the anti-Christian lable stickes.....

10 posted on 06/23/2005 4:49:15 AM PDT by Always Right
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Liberals say they believe in God, too.

Uh huh. They also say Bill Clinton is not a crook. If it was fashionable, they'd say they were striped-butt baboons.

It's one of the hottest trends in politics today.

And this is a clear example of how the left just doesn't "get it." Religion isn't a "trend" or a pop phenom. It is something that consumes one, that permeates the soul. It is not merely an ideological mood watch or the moral equivalent of bell bottom trousers.

Prominent Democrats are suddenly quoting from the Bible

Because Mao's Little Red Book has fallen out of favor ...

- as John Kerry said recently, "I went back and reread the whole New Testament"

... the popup version ...

- but what's truly striking is the determination of liberal Christians to create an effective religious left.

What's truly "striking" is the utter GALL of amoral opportunists to co-opt religion as an advertising gimmick.

That's why Tim Simpson trekked to Washington yesterday. A Presbyterian pastor from Tallahassee, Fla., he wants to counter the power of the religious right,

News flash, Tim: the power of the religious right (whatever THAT is) arises from its moral dimension, something a religion of convenience lacks.

11 posted on 06/23/2005 4:49:24 AM PDT by IronJack
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I think Dean has made it pretty clear which party is the Christian party.


12 posted on 06/23/2005 4:49:46 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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It's pretty hard for these pretenders to convince real Christians of their sincerity, when the high ground they're standing on is a mountain of 40,000,000 aborted babies.
Jesus said, "By their fruit, you will know them." Look at what liberal Democrats have turned our country into in the last 40 years and tell me we aren't going to hell in a handbasket. No real Christian will be fooled by the false prophets of the godless left.


13 posted on 06/23/2005 4:50:35 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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This article is so full of holes that it is hard to know where to being. The term "religiosity" is probably the key word here. Just to be religious is not enough, otherwise you are just a hypocrite. Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter are religious, and that is where their spiritually ends.

Hopefully most people will be able to see thru this religious facade.
14 posted on 06/23/2005 4:50:46 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek ('We voted like we prayed")
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Well isn't that nice. The Dems are looking for people
who are only a little religious. I have seen them using
what they probably feel are religious buzzwords, but to
actually believe and act by the spirit seems foreign to
dems. You can not support God and support evil at the
same time. Until I turned to God, and accepted Him as
my savior, I was a little religious.
15 posted on 06/23/2005 4:51:33 AM PDT by jusduat (I am a strange and recurring anomaly)
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Full acceptance of the ways of Christianity and full acceptance of the ways of the evil donkey are mutually exclusive.
18 posted on 06/23/2005 5:02:22 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Dealing with liberals? Remember: when you wrestle with a pig, you both get dirty and he loves it.)
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I know I'm opening myself up to all kinds of attacks but ...

You can not be a "TRUE" Christian and vote for any man who allows abortion to continue. GOD will hold you accountable for your vote.

How can I say this? I believe the bible is very clear. If you kill the child inside the mother you are guilty of murder .... period. Yes, the word abortion is not used but the meaning is clear. Therefore if you vote for someone who says he supports freedom of choice (just jumble words which mean they support killing the unborn child) then you are by definition supporting abortion. You can use all the weasel words you want to justify that vote to yourself, but come the final day .... what are you going to say to the "Almighty" ....

"...What? You were serious about that?...."

You can attack me all you want, but I would rather err on the side of safety than risk my very sole to make other feel good. We should support the innocent here not those seeking self gratification.

IMHO

(ps: the same argument could be used for the gay subject)
22 posted on 06/23/2005 5:19:13 AM PDT by Russ_in_NC
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The Christian left cites Bible passages to buttress their agenda (antiwar, universal health care, fighting poverty), but it's not clear how the movement can break the power of the religious right by advocating "equality for gays and lesbians" -

They need to call in the pro-gay faction of the Episcopal Church, who are excellent at twisting Scripture for their own purposes, and who now freely admit they've been working for 40 years to elevate perversion to the status of holiness.

They were asked by the Anglican Consultive Council to give a Scriptural justification for their election of a practicing gay bishop, and obviously the worked very hard to come up with something that sounded good enough for radical-left politicians (which is what they all are):

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1427464/posts

It wasn't quite good enough for the ACC, which yesterday asked the ECUSA to withdraw for a period of three years. But if you broadcast enough sound-bites of robed clerics spewing this stuff, eventually many people would believe that Jesus really meant "Go and sin some more, and don't forget to vote for the Democrats".

Don't think for a minute that the liberal denominations will NOT be a big part of the opposition strategy in 2008.

23 posted on 06/23/2005 5:28:05 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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Of course, eventually there's going to be the GOP feud between those who feel the government should legislate morality and those who feel the government ought to mostly leave us alone.


24 posted on 06/23/2005 5:29:05 AM PDT by Amelia (Common sense isn't particularly common.)
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Its amazing how readily and unashamedly Democrats change tact to the political winds.
John Kennedy, the enduring idol of the Democratic Party, was once said that it was very difficult for him, as a Harvard man, to answer questions of religion or theology.
26 posted on 06/23/2005 5:35:25 AM PDT by quadrant
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In Arkansas and West Virginia last autumn, the Republican National Committee sent out flyers telling evangelical Christians that "liberals" would ban the Bible if Kerry won.

Oh, yeah, it was stuff like that that really turned the tide for my family. They really have to stretch, don't they?

27 posted on 06/23/2005 5:39:04 AM PDT by madprof98
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