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To: Conservatrix
but that is because the majority of men who have to be taken to court are deabeats and selfish, irresponsible men who do NOT provide for thier children and have to be forced and compelled by the legal system to do so.

Thats not true. The vast majority do pay child support. The problem is when courts tell a man he can only see the children he loves every other weekend and then his ex screws with that time. Many "deadbeats" are actually devestated dads. (not all)

The love of their life has asked for a divorce because she wants to move on and she has the home, the kids, his paycheck, and a new man living in the house. He has to support himself on whats left of his check and in the cae of many like construction workers it does not matter that he was laid off when the job was done, Rain days or delays on the jobsite for other reasons are things the black robed little god doesnt want to hear about.

The system is unfair and women get treated better for the most part. Women dont have to pay near as much in support if at all. And last there is as large a percentage of deadbeat moms as there is dads if not larger.

113 posted on 06/22/2005 5:04:40 PM PDT by winodog (We need to pull the fedgov.con's feeding tube)
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To: winodog

I do not think you are right about deadbeat moms. The women are the ones who are stuck with abandoned children, victims of abuse, fathers who run off with their own lives, etc. I think your view is clouded by the pain of your own situation.

As far as the majority of dads paying support, perhaps that is true for the ones that don't have to go to court because they are deadbeats. It is possible to work out an arrangement between the parents, and avoid a detemination by the black-robed god, as you put it. But most cannot agree amicably on an amount, so the god takes over.

It sounds like you have a lot of hurt and bitterness and I only hope in time you can have peace over your situation and accept the things you cannot change. I wish the best for you and your child and a good relationship in the years to come with him/her.


117 posted on 06/22/2005 5:10:57 PM PDT by Conservatrix ("He who stands for nothing will fall for anything.")
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To: winodog

WOAH, such generalizations!

"The problem is when courts tell a man he can only see the children he loves every other weekend and then his ex screws with that time."

This is just not true. I know it happens to some dads, but sorry, most do get to see their kids.

"The love of their life has asked for a divorce because she wants to move on and she has the home, the kids, his paycheck, and a new man living in the house. He has to support himself on whats left of his check and in the cae of many like construction workers it does not matter that he was laid off when the job was done, Rain days or delays on the jobsite for other reasons are things the black robed little god doesnt want to hear about."

Again, where did you come up with this is how it happens is most situations? Out of all the women I know who are divorced not a one of them fit into your profile. I think you generalize women to much by thinking that is most cases it is always their faults. It takes 2 to get married and 2 to get divorced. I know a gal who cheated on her husband with his best friend and has divorced her husband and now is shacking up with the other dude. I can't stand the gal! I think she has screwed up her life and she is disgusting for what she did. I blame her for what happend, however I do know that her husband had been neglecting his marriage and her for awhile. Does not make what the gal did right, but I think if he would have fought harder for her they may still be together and the 2 kids have both of their parents. Oh, she gave up legal custody to him and they have 50/50 physical. Talk about a good mom! Pretty pathetic!

"The system is unfair and women get treated better for the most part. Women dont have to pay near as much in support if at all. And last there is as large a percentage of deadbeat moms as there is dads if not larger."

Actually I have a dead friend who's DH has custody and the mom is on probation and made to pay up big time on child support. Texas is tight on the mom and well as the dad when it comes to child support. The only way the mom gets away without paying child support is when a dad doesn't file enforcement for it. Again, you really need to stop with your generalizations. Women aren't the problem, sin is! People who divorce are sinning and God does not bless this. So, whatever happens after this comes straight from the Devil on both sides. Women aren't the enemy, Satan is. I don't consider ment he enemy either, but let Satan in just as easily as women do when a divorce happens. That is why you are laying all the responsibility on the women instead of realizing that in fact we are only responsible for our mistakes and not our sex. So stop with the generalizing and realize that you have fault in your situation as well as the mom.


124 posted on 06/22/2005 5:22:09 PM PDT by Halls
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To: winodog
I've been on both sides of this coin.sorry to hear you're a "non-custodial". It's no longer about 'best interest of the child', it's who can file first and spend the most on the best attorney. Once we got rid of "no fault" laws, the system became a lottery for bitter ex's trying to get even. The "family" courts are the only place I know of where you can take away someone's kids and half of what they own for doing absolutely nothing wrong.

BTW, my ex-wife rarely pays a dime of support and has never paid any medical or dental. Don't ask me why she's not in jail.Were roles reversed, I would be.

128 posted on 06/22/2005 5:25:39 PM PDT by Rakkasan1 (don't piss on my koran and tell me it's raining.)
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