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France wants to rapidly close large unmanned aircraft technology gap they have with the Americans
The Jerusalem Post ^ | June 22, 2005 | Marc Daugherty

Posted on 06/22/2005 5:39:50 AM PDT by FraudFactor.com

France wants to rapidly close large unmanned aircraft technology gap they have with the Americans


"France fully acknowledges Israel's experience in the development of advanced pilotless aircraft. We strongly feel France must rapidly close the large gap existing between us and the Americans in this field," said Francois Moysan to The Jerusalem Post. Moysan is a project engineer for the French Defense Ministry Armaments Directorate. Moysan also said IAI would team up with European defense giant EADS in a new $350 million French contract for the joint development of EuroMALE - a high-altitude, long-range, wide-body drone.
"EuroMALE will be offered to a consortium of EU states, some of which have already announced their intention to participate in the project. These include Italy, the Netherlands, Spain and Sweden," Moysan added



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Israel puts the designs on Paris Air Show By MARC DAUGHERTY

Jun. 22, 2005 8:00 | Updated Jun. 22, 2005 13:36

PARIS

Business is booming, said nearly all of Israel's aerospace and defense officials present at this year's Paris Air Show. Le Bourget is the premier venue for the world's aerospace industries, and the place for defense officials to mix, mingle and poke around.

Israel Aircraft Industries (IAI) says it expects a backlog of about $11 billion, an impressive 12% increase over 2004. CEO Moshe Keret attributes the growing orders to burgeoning cooperation agreements with the United States, Asia and Europe (which is about to become Israel's second-largest defense and aerospace export market).

"We are also trying to deepen our cooperation because of common needs and interests," said Keret.

Israel is keen on expanding its European footprint, and France appears to be its improbable new defense research and marketing partner.

"France fully acknowledges Israel's experience in the development of advanced pilotless aircraft. We strongly feel France must rapidly close the large gap existing between us and the Americans in this field," said Francois Moysan to The Jerusalem Post. Moysan is a project engineer for the French Defense Ministry Armaments Directorate. Moysan also said IAI would team up with European defense giant EADS in a new $350 million French contract for the joint development of EuroMALE - a high-altitude, long-range, wide-body drone.

"EuroMALE will be offered to a consortium of EU states, some of which have already announced their intention to participate in the project. These include Italy, the Netherlands, Spain and Sweden," Moysan added

The EuroMALE is a 26-meter-wide version of the IAI Eagle I and II drones sold to France between 2002 and 2004, and will carry 600 kg of cameras and radars, compared to the Eagle's 250 kg.

IAI's corporate vice president Doron Suslik also confirmed reports in France's Liberation daily that French engineers are currently stationed at IAI to work on the EuroMALE.

Further, trained eyes couldn't fail to notice the French Sperwer drone armed with two Israeli RAFAEL Spike precision guided anti-tank missiles. While both Israeli and French government officials kept mum on this project, RAFAEL spokeswoman Gila Harel confirmed that "RAFAEL is working on the armed version of the Sperwer with French defense contractor Sagem." Sagem plans to offer the armed drone to existing Sperwer users such as the Netherlands and France.

Harel also confirmed reports in Flight International saying that RAFAEL and IAI has agreed with the French government to develop advanced micro-satellites. Such satellites would use a plasma beam of ionized gas for propulsion.

Another trend confirmed at Le Bourget is Israel's strategy of increasing its civilian aviation market share. IAI has signed a contract to supply US manufacturer Vought with $500 million in parts for Boeing's 787 Dreamliner, a fuel-efficient, long-haul passenger jet.

In addition, IAI sources unveiled plans to develop the world's first unmanned cargo plane. The twin-boom, twin-engine transport would carry several tons of freight, be 20 meters long, and have a nearly 30-meter wingspan. Indeed, pilotless planes might replace manned aircraft for such civilian assignments. Australian unmanned air vehicle maker Aerosonde also displayed a model of a drone it hopes will make the world's first trans-Atlantic pilotless parcel delivery, along with NASA.

However, Israeli and French executives stressed that problems remain, as flying pilotless cargo planes over populated areas will undoubtedly pose regulatory problems.

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PARIS (Continued from page 1 of 2) Also prominently on display was the Javelin light trainer jet, which has already landed 90 orders in the US, according to US designer George Bye, CEO of ATG, which will manufacture the Javelin jointly with IAI.

As older jet trainers get more expensive to maintain, the Javelin will become more and more attractive. Analysts expect a market of nearly 4,000 trainer jets worldwide as air forces retire obsolete and expensive-to-run planes such as the IAF's Fougas.

Finally, all Israeli defense executives stressed that no military projects with the US have been placed on hold because of tensions over Israeli arms exports to China. Some, however, expressed fears that Washington might impose sanctions if the crisis isn't resolved soon. Elbit's Menahem Barkav confirmed that programs to fit American F-16, F-15, F-18E/F and F-22 fighters with Elbit's Joint Mounted Helmet Cuing System (JMHCS) are on track. The JMHCS, a helmet-mounted air combat display, is supplied to the US via Elbit's American partner Rockwell.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aerialvehicle; aerospace; defense; drone; euromale; france; israel; military; parisairshow; pilotlessaircraft; uav; unmanned
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It appears that France views the U.S. as its enemy or competition. Or is France just trying to "keep up with the Jones's?"

Given that France is behind the EuroMALE program, what would be a more appropriate name?

Your suggestions are welcome.

I will start with "EuroSheMALE" as a suggestion.

1 posted on 06/22/2005 5:39:51 AM PDT by FraudFactor.com
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How about renaming France "West Germany"? Isn't it almost time for the Krauts to kick their a$$ again? Have they had enough surrender practice?


2 posted on 06/22/2005 5:49:33 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?")
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To: FraudFactor.com

Why would France need anything that has any military purpose what so ever? They surrender at the first sign of hostility. Their odor is all they have to fear.


3 posted on 06/22/2005 5:50:06 AM PDT by Ron in Acreage (It's the borders stupid! (ours, not theirs!))
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If the French foreign policy continues in its hide-bound tradition of wishy washy alliances and groundless anti- Americanism, what the hell do they need with armaments (manned or otherwise)? Whoever and whatever owes is well being and survival to French arms or French political conviction is as good as dead and buried anyway!
4 posted on 06/22/2005 5:50:42 AM PDT by SMARTY
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French can quickly field in-MANned aircraft by taking conventional aircraft, and putting French pilots in them...

LOL!


5 posted on 06/22/2005 5:53:52 AM PDT by Redbob
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To: JimRed

Unmanned French aircraft? Is that so they can surrender without losing any troops?


6 posted on 06/22/2005 5:54:28 AM PDT by When do we get liberated?
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We strongly feel France must rapidly close the large gap existing between us and the Americans in this field”

As if the French have closed the gap with the Americans on many other fields! The arrogance of the French is beyond belief. They are so delusional about their power and self importance.

7 posted on 06/22/2005 5:56:34 AM PDT by jveritas (The Left cannot win a national election ever again.)
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To: JimRed

"How about renaming France "West Germany"? Isn't it almost time for the Krauts to kick their a$$ again? Have they had enough surrender practice?"

This is too hard on the frenchies - they are 1/3 against the Germans this far, not impossible they could even it out to 2/4 ;P


8 posted on 06/22/2005 5:56:55 AM PDT by dob
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To: FraudFactor.com

EuroSmell?


9 posted on 06/22/2005 5:57:30 AM PDT by MortMan (Mostly Harmless)
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To: FraudFactor.com
Can't think of a name, but here's some nose art:


10 posted on 06/22/2005 5:57:40 AM PDT by kezekiel
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To: JimRed; Ron in Acreage; SMARTY

France can change their national flag to an all-white surrender flag.

That way, they can surrender faster without requiring any extra effort!


11 posted on 06/22/2005 5:58:15 AM PDT by FraudFactor.com (Support redistricting reform to end gerrymandering and achieve more honest and responsive government)
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To: jveritas

The French have a lot of SELF importance, but what power?


12 posted on 06/22/2005 6:02:17 AM PDT by moose2004 (You Can Run But You Can't Hide!)
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To: kezekiel

When you have a history of running away from your enemy maybe faking your there will work to.


13 posted on 06/22/2005 6:02:42 AM PDT by nairBResal
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To: SMARTY
"what the hell do they need with armaments (manned or otherwise)? "

Two words: Arms Sales. France has a history of selling arms to all sides of any given conflict.
14 posted on 06/22/2005 6:05:28 AM PDT by LIConFem (A fronte praecipitium, a tergo lupi.)
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To: FraudFactor.com

So the french are sucking up to the Israelis in order to con them out of US technological info? And the Israelis are going along with this?


15 posted on 06/22/2005 6:07:19 AM PDT by McGavin999
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To: LIConFem

That is given. And now, they have to compensate for their loss of $$$ in tourism and sales of wine. Ha!


16 posted on 06/22/2005 6:09:19 AM PDT by SMARTY
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I think the flag of the Bourbon Monarchy was all white, with a Fleur des lis (sp?)
17 posted on 06/22/2005 6:12:30 AM PDT by SMARTY
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To: moose2004
No power what so ever to even come close to compete with us on any level. As I said the French are a very delusional people.
18 posted on 06/22/2005 6:36:24 AM PDT by jveritas (The Left cannot win a national election ever again.)
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To: SMARTY

True - all white with yellow fleur des lis. Amazingly, back when they were a monarchy they actually fought wars (and won some of them).

I would have thought that modern France would worry about the personal hygiene gap a bit more than something as pointless as upgrading their military.


19 posted on 06/22/2005 6:39:22 AM PDT by happyathome
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To: jveritas

I agree with you, the French are a joke, but I love French women (I lived and studied there during my junior year in college).


20 posted on 06/22/2005 6:40:56 AM PDT by moose2004 (You Can Run But You Can't Hide!)
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