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Terri Schiavo's remains buried in Clearwater
Sun-Sentinel ^ | June 20, 2005 | MITCH STACY

Posted on 06/20/2005 8:40:58 PM PDT by FairOpinion

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To: Stone Mountain; mountaineer
Mountaineer: Sounds like hearsay to me. So it would appear that to some here, unsworn hearsay accusing Michael Schiavo of criminal acts is perfectly acceptable and believable, but the "hearsay" about Terri's desire not to be kept alive in a vegetative state, as testified to before Judge Greer, is not.

Stone Mountain: Well put.

Well ... they say that context is everything.

I'd say that there are glaringly obvious, differences, in intent and outcome, between the two "hearsays." . --

  1. Michael is
    1. alive and
    2. well and
    3. able to commission a weird grave marker for Terri
    .
  2. Terri is
    1. dead and
    2. cremated and
    3. buried under Michael's weird grave marker
    after two weeks of dehydration*, instigated by the testimony of the The Three Schiavoteers.

* Dehydration, from an onlooker's point of view --

"[Nancy Cruzan, three days before her death from starvation] turned and looked at me and stared at me with
a panicky look, sweating profusely,

and the thought I had was, she was thinking,
‘Oh, here’s a policeman, he’ll help me.’
But we weren’t allowed to do that,"...
Doug Seneker

881 posted on 06/23/2005 4:56:25 AM PDT by syriacus (1st Michael couldn't stand to live without Terri. Then he couldn't stand to live with her.)
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To: syriacus
George "Flick-Tongue" Felos
and
The Three Schiavoteers
~~ at your service ~~
to provide death-dealing testimony

882 posted on 06/23/2005 5:19:00 AM PDT by syriacus (George Felos and the Three Schiavoteers --at your service to provide death-dealing testimony)
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To: Voir Dire
The new AMA ethical guidelines and the law now in some states (see the Nighbeth case, in addition to Schiavo-Schindler) will cast aside a living will or other other expressed directives to live in favor of a presumption of death. In Nighbeth she asked to be fed, the court said that her living will pre-empted since that fovored death -- she was then killed. In Schiavo the probate Judge tossed all testimony and evidence that Terri would have wanted to live and not only allowed the poorest quality of hearsay for death, but stamped it with a legal process label called "clear and convincing". The establishment in the US now favors death -- that must be your presumption.

A living will or durable power of attorney is little or no protection. A hospital can make a decision when say the designee of a DPOA is on vacation, or can "lose" a living will, or as possibly happened in Schiavo -- convince the designee that your wishes are really to die.

883 posted on 06/23/2005 5:32:39 AM PDT by bvw
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To: SoVaDPJ

If the Schindlers did a gravesite ... they could tag it "Brutally murdered by a man who kept his promise."


884 posted on 06/23/2005 5:36:55 AM PDT by bvw
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To: texasflower
MIcheal's a brute and bully. Micheal's a murderer. And Micheal's a liar. Public evidence for each of those assertions. (1) Threatening behaviour on Phildephia radio shows. Treatment of Terri's parents. The lack of care shown Terri. The murder of Terri. The odometer (okay that's a rumor). (2) Terri was murdered, Mike the accomplice. (Greer is more prime, but Greer counl not have done it without Mike's willing help.) (3) The malpractise suit. ME finds no evidence of bulimia. Yet that is what Mike brought, testified and with which won millions on the wheel of misfortune.

Plus -- where the other major character flaws (thuggery, murder) are found lying is nearly always found as well.

885 posted on 06/23/2005 5:45:06 AM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw
bully

A very accurate word to describe Michael.

886 posted on 06/23/2005 8:29:50 AM PDT by syriacus (George Felos and the Three Schiavoteers --at your service to provide death-dealing testimony)
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To: Earthdweller

Glad you posted that picture. Thanks.


887 posted on 06/23/2005 8:31:31 AM PDT by syriacus (George Felos and the Three Schiavoteers --at your service to provide death-dealing testimony)
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To: eleni121
As for your Muslim comment, two wrongs don't make a right. Their religion allows mass murder of innocents. Mine does not.

My religion isn't too big on it either but your society and mine does. Our "government of the people, by the people and for the people" gives it legal sanction.

888 posted on 06/23/2005 9:18:57 AM PDT by TigersEye (Are your parents pro-choice? I guess you got lucky! ... Is your spouse?)
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To: Robert Drobot

It's not my offer. The offer comes from codeblue.com. The link is in my previous post. Sounds like easy money to me if these so-called docs are so sure of their ability to diagnose the PVS state from a CT scan. Shoot! getting 60% by throwing darts at the wall or flipping a coin might work. $100,000 bucks just waiting there...!


889 posted on 06/23/2005 9:24:52 AM PDT by TigersEye (Are your parents pro-choice? I guess you got lucky! ... Is your spouse?)
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To: TigersEye

Last time I checked it was a bunch of deluded secularist Supreme Court "justices" that ruled on Roe v Wade...not the people.

Once they ruled that it was legal to murder chidlren, the secularist apparatus went into full gear to undermine the traditional morality of Americans.

It's up to us to reform this inhuman practice. That is one reason Bush got re elected...the promise of a change in the SC.


890 posted on 06/23/2005 10:31:52 AM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: bvw

Oh course Michael is all of those things.

All I questioned was the assertion of the poster who said he KNEW what Michael Schiavo did or did not tell Terri.

He can't know that. Period.


891 posted on 06/23/2005 10:41:42 AM PDT by texasflower
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To: bvw
If the Schindlers did a gravesite ... they could tag it "Brutally murdered by a man who kept his promise."

Or they could use this grave marker:


892 posted on 06/23/2005 10:43:34 AM PDT by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: eleni121
You're right; the SCOTUS usurped the people's power to decide that. That doesn't change the fact that it is our country and our government and abortions occur in huge numbers. I see no indication that the President or Congress will challenge the authority of the SCOTUS. Talk of checks and balances is just hot air.

The Congress wrote the un-Constitutional CFR. The President said it was un-Constitutional but declined to exercise executive power to veto it relying on the SCOTUS to strike it down. SCOTUS knocked down a couple of minor points in CFR but, in essence, said "this is fine with us."

So we have a clearly un-Constitutional law restricting political speech which all three branches of government have either approved or passed the buck on. We have no checks and balances now. No will to obey and defend the Constitution and no intent to represent the will of the people. We the people and the Constitution and DoI are just pieces to play in a game of power grabbing.

893 posted on 06/23/2005 10:46:53 AM PDT by TigersEye ("It's a Republic if you can keep it!" - B. Franklin)
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To: Spiff

Appropriate and brutally honest. Bravo!

Schiavo will not get a moment's peace.

Felos - the master manipulator should be investigated as well.


894 posted on 06/23/2005 11:09:33 AM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: Voir Dire
"Are you suggesting that people should now put in writing that they WANT to be kept alive? I do not believe the law requires that."

Unbelievably..as of the year 2005, in our America, the presumption of life has been elimination after over 200 plus years and it hasn't even been exposed in the MSM.

This is historical and all I hear is crickets.

See the latest release from the AMA.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1427939/posts

"...the American Medical Association on Tuesday [adopted] policy opposing any legislation that presumes patients would want life-sustaining treatment unless it is clear that they would not."

*snip*

"Tuesday's action also reaffirmed existing AMA policy that says it is ethical in some cases to discontinue life-sustaining treatment if it is in the patient's best interests. "

895 posted on 06/23/2005 8:58:27 PM PDT by Earthdweller (US descendant of French Protestants_"Where there is life, there is hope"..Terri Schindler)
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To: All

Hi everyone! What's up with this Terri Schiavo thing anyway? Was she famous or sometin?


896 posted on 07/06/2005 9:53:03 AM PDT by SomebodyWakeUpHicks
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