Posted on 06/20/2005 8:40:58 PM PDT by FairOpinion
This is about Terri Schiavo, and what SHE did or did not want.
This is NOT transferable to hypothetical situations.
Terri left no instructions, written or otherwise. Even the best MS could come up with was an offhanded comment that Terri MAY or MAY NOT have made to him.
Do you think, that when there is more than ample doubt about the wishes of the incapacitated person, they should be killed?
This is NOT transferable to hypothetical situations.
Seriously?
I'm really surprised at that.
I'm sorry for your husband that you would want him to live fifteen years or more with no companionship but a permanently vegetative wife.
My husband would do the right thing and divorce me, and give me back to my family.
I've come to that conclusion as well.
Bonus deal for your family.
You did.
ME: Isn't suffering pain the 'will of God', too?
YOU: I would agree with you there. We Americans have become a bit mushy haven't we?
They seem to think so.
Wrong as usual. The Florida Supreme court ruled In re Guardianship of Browning in 1990 that a written living will was not required to establish the patient's desire to forgo life-sustaining treatment.
Based on what I've seen, yes.
Florida does not require a written living will.
Boy...do you jump to conclusions! LOL.
The courts did not agree with you. From the Florida Second District Court of Appeals, March 16, 2005:
The judgment was entered by the trial court in February 2000 following an extensive trial. The trial court determined, based on clear and convincing evidence, that Theresa Schiavo was in a persistent vegetative state and that she herself would elect to forego further use of a feeding tube. This court affirmed that judgment.
I simply read what you wrote. As did others. If you meant something different, you may wish to clarify your words.
I don't respond to dopey remarks.
Try reading again...it's in English.
Some folks are in denial... but I think its about their own support of living wills and the right of individuals to specify the means of when and where life support is to be withdrawn.
The ones most upset about terri and michaels end game... would seemingly not support withdrawal of life-support even if Terri HAD put it in writing and everyone in her neighborhood and family notarized it personally to boot.
They get viscerally angry about it if you ask them about it too.
They don't want us 'other americans' to control any aspect of our own lives, if it conflicts with THEIR own moral code. They believe withdrawing support by living will is a form of assisted suicide. Of course, fifty years ago, we couldn't keep these folks alive for five minutes let alone five years.
We are going to have to have this discussion, because a lot of us in this generation are going to have to face life and death decisions at a time when social security may not have the money to keep us all on life support till we reach 160 years of age... even though the technology might exist in 30 years to do just that.
Who is going to control individual choice?
The government directed by the religious right? the liberal left? or individuals after their own conscience?
On a responsibility level: Who is going to decide and WHO is going to pay?
This is about a lot more than terri and michael schiavo.
I read what you wrote and it loooke like that to me too.
What did you mean if not that?
I believe that most of the Terri Schiavo's threads are about the right to "life" and "not" just about the right for anyone else to decide what are "your" civil rights to live "your" life no matter how impaired you are or might become. And that no one, "NO ONE!", other then "YOURSELF" has the right to make the choice of "death" for you.
In such a case as Terri's, her civil rights to her life were taken from her by the court, with "NO" written document stating that "her" wishes were to die if she were impaired, PVS or otherwise.
With out that written document, she should never have been stripped of "her" civil rights to live "her" life no matter how impaired.
Any one who has it in writing that they wish to be disconnected from any and all life saving treatment should also be allowed "their" choice to end "their" own life.
And I should also point out that those of you who have posted here saying that you would not want to live if you were in Terri's condition, well, you'd better NOT change your mind somewhere down the road and decide that you would rather live. Because we have your words in writing... and remember, all Michael Schiavo needed to have Terri killed, was hearsay evidence.
You guys are spacy...
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