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You Saw Them Here First (Copies of Kerry's 180)
Powerline ^ | June 20, 2005

Posted on 06/20/2005 8:24:53 PM PDT by hipaatwo

Via the Freedom of Information Act, a reader obtained copies of the Form 180s that were recently signed by John Kerry to permit, at long last, the release of his military records. I believe there may be a story about this in the New York Sun tomorrow, and no doubt more commentary will be forthcoming over the next few days. Here are the three documents that Kerry signed; on their face, I don't see anything wrong with them, but then, I'm no expert in military personnel records. We look forward to our readers' comments.

Go to the link..there are 3 pages.


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To: Bob

Yes, The US Navy records will not explain his discharge in 1978, those records would be under the control of the DOD


61 posted on 06/20/2005 9:37:17 PM PDT by MJY1288 ("Dingy" Harry Reid & "Disturbed" Durbin are a Waste of Tax Payers Money)
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To: Bob

I've tried 3 times over the last 10 years to get copies of my Army records from '81-'85. The first 2 times was the fire story, the last was the flood.

Alls I wanted was proof that I busted my right leg and foot when an M-109 tried to run me over on a muddy tank trail in Graf, but I guess the shooting pain in my foot when the barometric pressure drops rapidly will have to suffice.


62 posted on 06/20/2005 9:39:38 PM PDT by Delta 21 (MKC USCG -ret)
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To: MJY1288
Yes, The US Navy records will not explain his discharge in 1978, those records would be under the control of the DOD

Naval officers (USN and USNR) separated between certain dates have all of their records archived at the NPRC in St. Louis. DOD has nothing to do with this. He was discharged from the Navy Reserves - those records weren't requested.

63 posted on 06/20/2005 9:41:43 PM PDT by Bob
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To: axes_of_weezles
Correction, Should have been #14

Discharged, deceased, or retired before 1/1/1886 (enlisted) or before 1/1/1903 (officer) 6

Discharged, deceased, or retired 1/1/1886 – 1/30/1994 (enlisted) or 1/1/1903 – 1/30/1994 (officer) 14 14

NAVY Discharged, deceased, or retired 1/31/1994 – 12/31/1994 14 11

Discharged, deceased, or retired on or after 1/1/1995 10 Active, reserve, or TDRL 10

___________________________________________________________

14 National Personnel Records Center (Military Personnel Records) 9700 Page Ave. St. Louis, MO 63132-5100


64 posted on 06/20/2005 9:42:47 PM PDT by axes_of_weezles (Ha!)
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To: Delta 21

There is are a few phone numbers to call at the place in St Louis. Call the military line. They have actual people there that can help you. Nothing I've ever heard should have effected your records, the fire has before your time.
If you want contact me offline and I'll dig up the number for you.


65 posted on 06/20/2005 9:43:13 PM PDT by ProudVet77 (NASCAR - Because it's the way Americans drive.)
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To: Delta 21
I've got my eye out for you..

C_BS

66 posted on 06/20/2005 9:47:47 PM PDT by axes_of_weezles (Ha!)
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To: Delta 21

Here ya go Thomas Lipscomb of the Chicago Sun Times...
print it, fill in your address, date it, mail it then you should get your copy like the La Times did...
67 posted on 06/20/2005 9:47:50 PM PDT by Echo Talon (http://echotalon.blogspot.com)
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To: Bob
OK, Thanks for the clarification
68 posted on 06/20/2005 9:50:42 PM PDT by MJY1288 ("Dingy" Harry Reid & "Disturbed" Durbin are a Waste of Tax Payers Money)
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To: tobyhill

It appears he released active duty records only, and not reserves.


69 posted on 06/20/2005 9:57:21 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: ProudVet77

I will FreepMail you and we might get something going. As it is its just about 8 bells and I gotta hit the pit.

Thanks!


70 posted on 06/20/2005 9:58:12 PM PDT by Delta 21 (MKC USCG -ret)
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To: Old Sarge; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
Sarge & Tonk. Good evening!

I just wasted 3 sheets of paper copying BS!

Please note Section II, item 1, Xs in each box.......struck out.

Return to sender.

71 posted on 06/20/2005 10:02:59 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (I once opposed keelhauling but recently have come to my senses.)
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To: hipaatwo; The Sailor; txradioguy; Jet Jaguar; Defender2; Blue Scourge; Cool Multiservice Soldier; ..

Swift Boat Veteran For Truth John O'Neill Comments on Kerry's 180 'Release'
6/7/05
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418592/posts

John Kerry was dishonorably dismissed from the Navy:
(statement from lawyers there at the time)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1406760/posts

Why does Hanoi Kerry continue to refuse to sign
form SF 180 and release his military records to the public?
Sam Sewell 09 June 2005

http://www.intellectualconservative.com/article4388.html


72 posted on 06/20/2005 10:05:23 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Be wary of the "Move On" FReepers! They want Hanoi Kerry to get a "free pass" mmmm Wonder Why?)
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To: PAR35
It appears he released active duty records only, and not reserves.

Didn't he also do his active duty as a USNR officer? I don't think he ever was actually a USN officer. (I was enlisted so I'm not fully up on the technicalities of the distinctions.)

73 posted on 06/20/2005 10:08:58 PM PDT by Bob
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To: Echo Talon

Thanks, I just sent in my request...

"please forward ALL documents, just this once, to:
Amanda Huggenkiss, from the BigWazoo Record. "

However, I sent mine to St. Louis.


74 posted on 06/20/2005 10:10:22 PM PDT by bitt ("There are troubling signs Bush doesn't care about winning a third term." (JH2))
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To: hipaatwo
Kerry's service number is only 6 digits on the form. This seems odd to me. My service number is 8 Digits. I was in the Army and have never seen a service number less than 8 digits.

Does anyone know is the Navy ordinarily uses a six digit service number?

75 posted on 06/20/2005 10:13:49 PM PDT by Rabble (Just When is John F sKerry going to release all his military records ?)
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To: hipaatwo

Well .. somebody from Powerline should check with John O'Neill because he says this is not all of John's records. In fact I heard him say that when you sign a 180 - you release ALL documents - including citations - and discharge papers. And .. I heard later that it is possible for John to sign for the release of only certain documents - but that's not a 180.


76 posted on 06/20/2005 10:14:30 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: Echo Talon
so... nobody else can get a copy, just the Boston Globe reporter Kranish?

One each to Boston Globe, Associated Press, and Los Angeles Times. AKA Pravda, Izvestia, and Red Star.

We'll not be finding out about anything negative in the record anytime soon. I also note that he didn't list his reserve service time, even though it was inactive reserve, either Individual Ready Reserve (which is still selected reserve, subject to involuntary recall by the President) or Inactive Status reserve, (subject to recall authorized by Congress). Trouble is, the most interesting information may deal with his reserve time, not his active duty time. The form is very sloppily filled out. Are we to believe that non of Kerry's staff has a typewriter, or could not have filled the form out electronically. In this day and age, I'd be ashamed to turn in a form that looked like that. The forms also look like they were filled in once, and then xeroxed and white out used to remove the information to be changed and then the changed information written over the white out. It's also possible they just filled out only the unchanging party, then made copies and filled in the three different persons/agencies for the material to be released and sent to.

77 posted on 06/20/2005 10:19:36 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: tobyhill
Kerry only states US Navy but is the Navy Reserves included in the category?

Well, since the form has a separate row for Reserve service, one would think not.

78 posted on 06/20/2005 10:20:37 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: blu
That seems rather odd, especially when you read the fine print on the docs, they (the military) seem rather big on dates.

If this wasn't from a sitting US Senator, the clerk would send it back to be re-accomplished.

79 posted on 06/20/2005 10:21:51 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: El Gato
It's also possible they just filled out only the unchanging party, then made copies and filled in the three different persons/agencies for the material to be released and sent to.

See post #50

80 posted on 06/20/2005 10:22:32 PM PDT by Echo Talon (http://echotalon.blogspot.com)
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