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Ashes of Terri Schiavo buried
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Posted on 06/20/2005 3:27:22 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

Ashes of Terri Schiavo buried 12 minutes ago

The remains of Terri Schiavo, a brain-damaged Florida woman whose fate sparked a highly politicized right-to-die battle, were buried on Monday in Florida, her husband's lawyer said.

The interment of Schiavo's ashes took place nearly three months after she died and five days after pathologists released results of an autopsy that showed her to have had massive brain damage and no hope of recovery. Her condition resulted from a collapse in 1990 that deprived her brain of oxygen.

The burial at Sylvan Abbey Memorial Park in Clearwater, Florida, was held in the presence of her husband, Michael Schiavo, some of his brothers and a priest, attorney George Felos said in a brief statement.

The autopsy results supported court findings during a long legal battle between Schiavo's parents and her husband that she was in a persistent vegetative state, meaning she could not think or feel, pathologists who conducted the autopsy said last week.

The courts consistently supported Michael Schiavo's stance that his wife would not have wanted to live in this state and should be allowed to die.

Her parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, believed she had some hope for recovery and fought for seven years to keep her alive in a campaign that attracted support from right-to-life activists, Christian evangelicals and the Vatican.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: bobschindler; clearwater; georgefelos; maryschindler; michaelschiavo; schiavograve; sylvanabbey; terrischiavo
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To: Voir Dire

Nice.

You care to supply any evidence to support your insinuation that the entire media, including Fox News, and Terri's family, are somehow involved in a conspiracy to defraud the public? The basic facts of the autopsy are not in dispute.


101 posted on 06/20/2005 7:46:04 PM PDT by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Voir Dire

Thanks .. you're right .. and it seemed quite superficial in many respects, though I'm a medical language laymen.


102 posted on 06/20/2005 7:53:56 PM PDT by STARWISE ( You get the govt. you deserve. CALL YOUR CONGRESS CRITTERS OFTEN -U.S. CONGRESS: 1-877-762-8762)
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To: Voir Dire; All
".......Victims may have no visible injuries whatsoever,* with only transient symptoms-yet because of underlying brain damage by lack of oxygen during the strangling, victims have died up to several weeks later. Because of the unforeseen consequences of injuries from a strangulation attempt that may appear minor to the untrained, officers at the scene should radio for medics for a medical evaluation of all victims who report being strangled - if they are capable of making a report.

Consider the testimony of Dr. Hammesfahr regarding Terri's neck injury from Oct. 11, 2002:

"Anoxic and hypoxic encephalopathies are characterized by multiple small strokes. So depending upon where that stroke is, is where your deficiency is. In your average stroke, the entire side of the body is affected. But in a hypoxic or anoxic episodes, or cerebral palsy, you will see lots of different areas affected. And there may be another injury, a neck injury with her also, which compounds her examination.

Q. Compounds what, her condition?

A. Her condition, yes. There is a neck injury. There may be a spinal cord injury, also.

Q. How were you able to determine a neck injury?

A. By physical examination. On physical examination, she has several characteristics that are not typical of a stroke. First, she has very severe neck spasms. That's typical of the body's response, splinting the area to prevent injury to that area.

Q. Splinting the area?

A. Yeah. If you injure your arm, you will move it. Your muscles will contract around it to keep that area moving. Her muscles around the neck area are heavily contracted to help prevent movement around that area. Later on in the videotape, we actually show that it's almost impossible for her to bend her neck. You can pick her entire body up off the bed just by putting pressure on the back of the neck area, which is not typical in brain injury patients but in neck injury patients. In addition, her sensory examination is nothing like a typical stroke patient or typical anoxic encephalopathy.

Q. Are you experienced in treatment of patients with spinal cord injury?

A. Yes, I am.

Q. You said that you had never felt a neck like that except for one other patient, right?

A, Correct.

Q. What was the cause of injury in the other patient?

A. The person had an anoxic encephalous due to attempted strangulation.

Governor Bush has asked Bernie McCabe, Pinellas-Pasco County State Attorney to investigate why Michael Schiavo waited 40-70 minutes to call the paramedics.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2005/6/19/204324.shtml

103 posted on 06/20/2005 7:59:35 PM PDT by STARWISE ( You get the govt. you deserve. CALL YOUR CONGRESS CRITTERS OFTEN -U.S. CONGRESS: 1-877-762-8762)
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To: tutstar

Thanks for the ping!


104 posted on 06/20/2005 8:09:10 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: STARWISE
SHE DIED FROM HAVING NOURISHMENT AND WATER WITHHELD FOR 13 DAYS AS ANY OF US WOULD DIE IN THAT CIRCUMSTANCE!

Likewise, if any of us was deprived of air, we'd die. Remove life support, and the patient dies. That's how a living will works, whether it's oral or written.

So many people think the Terri Schiavo case was about the right to life. It wasn't. It wasn't even about the right to die. Terri's case was about who speaks for a person when that person is no longer able to speak for herself.

Apparently, the judge ruled that a woman leaves her father and mother when she takes a husband.

105 posted on 06/20/2005 8:12:37 PM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: newgeezer

A birth certificate is not a bill of sale, and neither is a marriage license. No one had the right to order Terri's murder.


106 posted on 06/20/2005 8:38:59 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Impeach Judge Greer - In memory of Terri Schindler <strike>Schiavo</strike> - www.terrisfight.org)
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To: newgeezer
I was referring to the autopsy conclusions ...however, if you have a daughter and you could actually want a husband like MS for her, I feel sorry for you. He "owned" the rights to her disposition by the order of one determiner of the facts of the case .. just like property... and now will attempt to reap the monetary rewards of the disposition of his property.

WHEN THERE'S DOUBT, ALWAYS ERR ON THE SIDE OF


107 posted on 06/20/2005 8:40:30 PM PDT by STARWISE ( You get the govt. you deserve. CALL YOUR CONGRESS CRITTERS OFTEN -U.S. CONGRESS: 1-877-762-8762)
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To: I still care
I thought Alan Colmes was really rude to Terri's brother and sister that night. He thinks that they are still blaming Michael for doing something to Terri when the autopsy has shown that, in his opinion, Michael is innocent of any wrongdoing.
108 posted on 06/20/2005 9:04:19 PM PDT by Goodgirlinred ( GoodGirlInRed Four More Years!!!!!)
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To: Dog Gone
"Next will come the calls for the exact spot, followed by the pilgrimages."

Sounds like a plan. Thanks for the good suggestion.
109 posted on 06/20/2005 9:47:57 PM PDT by Wampus SC
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To: Sub-Driver

God bless her. This isn't over yet
by any means because God has promised He
is the One Who will repay.


110 posted on 06/20/2005 9:49:31 PM PDT by righttackle44 (The most dangerous weapon in the world is a Marine with his rifle and the American people behind him)
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To: Sub-Driver

Fox News reported that Michael had her tombstone engraved with "I kept my promise." What an egocentric jerk! His actions--right up to the end--have always been about his best interests.


111 posted on 06/20/2005 9:51:37 PM PDT by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington (Washington State--Land of Court-approved Voting Fraud.)
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To: jla
"Why? Is it that difficult for you to resist clicking on to them?"

It doesn't work that way at all. Resistance to clicking is not a factor.

You see, every one of the people who complain that these threads exist at all have someone standing behind them with a loaded .357 saying, "click on that thread, and participate, or else!". This is little known and semi-secret, but it's the actual explanation.

I forgive their behavior because they're posting under such extreme duress.
112 posted on 06/20/2005 10:00:20 PM PDT by Wampus SC
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To: PeoplesRepublicOfWashington
I kept my promise

What'll you bet that's the book and movie title? (He kept his promise, all right, his promise to the devil.) Oh, how Felos is salivating right now rubbing his hands together all turned on jumping up and down. He can't wait for the money and fame and accolades from far and wide. We'll see, won't we? I'm hoping the Schindler's sue the pants off of a bunch of people!!

113 posted on 06/20/2005 10:04:39 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (I miss Terri - IMPEACH JUDGE GREER!!!)
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To: ArkieGirl52

Welcome to FR. Even those who wear size 19 shoes like it here sometimes. We'll try to bring the flaming level down to that of the high standards set by CP, LP and FU. Will that be satisfactory?


114 posted on 06/20/2005 10:06:37 PM PDT by Wampus SC
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To: Dante3

" Michael was probably told it will help his movie deal. "

And his hedious image. I'll never understand why he wouldn't allow the family to give Terri a normal burial. Until the end, Michael Schiavo showed no heart or mercy for Terri or her family, imo.


115 posted on 06/20/2005 10:22:31 PM PDT by Pepper777
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To: PeoplesRepublicOfWashington

"I kept my promise"

That's to hurt Terri's parents when they come by. He hates their guts. When he threw them out in her dying moments, I thought, this man is so filled with hatred and the desire to control, there is no depth to which he will not sink.

Yhere was no need to put that on the tombstone, if not to hurt the parents.


116 posted on 06/20/2005 11:58:19 PM PDT by I still care (America is not the problem - it is the solution..)
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To: k2blader; BykrBayb; 8mmMauser; TheSarce; tutstar; Pepper777; Halls; lilypad; don-o; ...
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It's awfully sick of that b@stard Michael to have marked Terri's grave as 'departed this earth' on February 25, 1990.

There must be at least 50 to 100 people who personally witnessed her being responsive in the last 15 years, including honorable priests, doctors who wrote in her chart she spoke, even Michael's 1992 attorney, and the 1992 Michael himself, and his girlfriends at the time.

BUT I can give Michael credit for just ONE THING.
He is PROBABLY being truthful about having 'kept his promise'...

  • Terri probably said that night: "I want a divorce"

  • and Michael probably promised: "I'll see you dead first!"

117 posted on 06/21/2005 12:26:11 AM PDT by Future Useless Eater (formerly FL_Engineer) (It was wrong to kill her. No other "facts" matter.-JimRobinson)
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From "Terri Big Eyes" video available at www.terrisfight.org

Terri starts out apparently asleep. A doctor wakes her to start his tests.

Doctor: Terri. Open your eyes up...

Terri: (Startled at hearing her name. She starts moving her mouth and fluttering her eyes, like a person who is just waking up)

Doctor: Open your eyes, Terri open your eyes

Terri: (slowly at first, Terri struggles to open her eyes, then turns toward the doctor, and opens her eyes a normal amount)

Doctor: There you go, good.

Terri: (then, either to show off(?) or wanting to perform well, she leans further forward toward the doctor, looks straight at him and opens her eyes as WIDE AS SHE CAN. Note the WRINKLES ACROSS HER FOREHEAD caused by her also RAISING HER EYEBROWS as high as possible )

Doctor: [now obviously impressed] GOOD!! GOOD JOB! GOOD JOB YOUNG LADY! Good Job.



118 posted on 06/21/2005 12:28:29 AM PDT by Future Useless Eater (formerly FL_Engineer) (It was wrong to kill her. No other "facts" matter.-JimRobinson)
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To: Future Useless Eater

Evil...........

And here I was thinking the "I kept my promise" was as bad as it could get.


119 posted on 06/21/2005 12:42:08 AM PDT by k2blader (Was it wrong to kill Terri Shiavo? YES - 83.8%. FR Opinion Poll.)
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To: I still care

Nice post.

I believe Terri's parents get their strength because they know God keeps His promises too.


120 posted on 06/21/2005 12:44:44 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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