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Scientology "Princess" is a spooky shadow on kooky Katie. (Hollyweird Alert)
The New York Post Online ^ | June 19, 2005 | Philip Recchia

Posted on 06/20/2005 12:45:36 PM PDT by Jacob Kell

Katie Holmes' new Scientology "handler" is church "royalty" whose family made millions in business and the stock market - and went on to be plagued by charges of religious harassment and linked to Medicare fraud, The Post has learned. Jessica Rodriguez has emerged as the woman who's been irking Warner Bros. Pictures by shadowing the "Batman Begins" star 24/7 during Holmes' press blitz.

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To: Cinnamon Girl
I don't think you're allowed to change your mind about scientology. And if you do, you aren't allowed to say so publicly.

Not true.

Enough members leave and talk about it that its not a big problem for them.

To top it off, they are not violent or dangerious or anything though they are a bit litigious (I wish TROP was like that).

That said I knew 2 folks who were "scientologist", best I could figure out, they joined for the networking and connections. I don't know where they are now, but they were trying to get into the entertainment industry and were having some luck.

I think its a scam masquarading as a networking/contacts/spirituality with no strings attached corporation/cult. Works for some folks.

41 posted on 06/20/2005 1:40:29 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Sonny M

"they are not violent or dangerious"


Except they have been directly involved in the death of more than one person. Scientology is very dangerous.


42 posted on 06/20/2005 1:41:54 PM PDT by shellshocked (They're undocumented Border Patrol agents, not vigilantes.)
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To: eyespysomething

Sure looks like it.


43 posted on 06/20/2005 1:43:44 PM PDT by stevio (Red-Blooded American Male)
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To: shellshocked
Except they have been directly involved in the death of more than one person. Scientology is very dangerous.

A couple of members may have done something but they are about as dangerious as Buddhists.

These guys are about as scary as the dala lama.

44 posted on 06/20/2005 1:44:25 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Jacob Kell
The story is that they have agreed to a 5-year relationship, with no sex, with Cruise paying her $1 million a year.

Damned If I Know

45 posted on 06/20/2005 1:45:28 PM PDT by sharktrager (My life is like a box of chocolates, but someone took all the good ones.)
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To: HamiltonJay
Scientology is a Cult, period.

That's not what the aliens in my body tell me.

46 posted on 06/20/2005 1:54:20 PM PDT by capydick ("The current tax code is a daily mugging." --Ronald Reagan)
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To: Jacob Kell

I'm starting to not like Tom Cruise. He's been OK in some movies, but I'm starting to think he's a phony. Why is he getting remarried so quickly?

I know about the rumors, I'm starting to believe them.

Not that it really matters or is any of my business of course.


47 posted on 06/20/2005 1:57:10 PM PDT by garyhope ( com)
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To: Sonny M

"I think its a scam masquarading as a networking/contacts/spirituality with no strings attached corporation/cult. Works for some folks."

So did the Pablo Escobar organization.


48 posted on 06/20/2005 2:02:25 PM PDT by james500
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To: All

The Top 15 Least Known Chapters in "Dianetics"

1"Getting Chicks To Say Yes: L. Ron Answers the Booty Call"

2"Hey, If It's In a Bestseller, It MUST Be True!"

3"Travolta 3:16"

4"Making Your Own E-meter With Dixie Cups And Duct Tape"

5"Chapter 26: In Which Luke Discovers that L. Ron Vader is His Real Father"

6"Chapter 5: Rush Limbaugh Is A Big Fat Idiot"

7"'Old Mother' Hubbard -- L. Ron, the Transvestite Years"

8"Chapter 12: Geez, You're Still Buying This, Aren't You?"

9"The Human Mind: That Vast Realm Half an Inch Behind the Forehead (Two Inches Back for Scott Hamilton)"

10"When a Lawsuit Hits Your Eye, Like a Big Pizza Pie, That's Scientology"

11"He's NOT the Telescope Guy!"

12"Chapter 11 - How To File For It"

13"Movie Stars -- Are They Gullible, or What?"

14"Chapter 3: Post This on the Internet and We'll Sue Your Ass!"

and the Number 1 Least Known Chapter in "Dianetics"...

15"Commandment Number One: 'Show Me the Money!'"


49 posted on 06/20/2005 2:03:05 PM PDT by Jacob Kell (Regan 3:16: He whooped Communism's ass!)
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To: sharktrager

So what do they get out of it? I know that Katie becomes more famous as a result (after all, she herself admitted that she wasn't among the more famous actresses and her last few movies didn't do so hot). What does the Ayatollah Cruisemeinei get from it? More publicity among the younger segment of the population? A chance to deflect those gay rumors?


50 posted on 06/20/2005 2:07:42 PM PDT by Jacob Kell (Regan 3:16: He whooped Communism's ass!)
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To: Sonny M
A couple of members may have done something but they are about as dangerious as Buddhists.

Wow, you must know some extremely nasty Buddhists.

51 posted on 06/20/2005 2:09:11 PM PDT by Junior_G
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To: Jacob Kell

She is the only weak link in the superb cast for Batman Begins, though to be fair, she didn't suck or anything.

TomKat is funny.


52 posted on 06/20/2005 2:13:46 PM PDT by Aetius
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To: Jacob Kell
I'd say the gay rumors AND appealing to a younger dempographic. He's not exactly the kid he once was.

Keep in mind, Scientology is very anti-gay, and they believe they can cure it, just like they claim they can cure drug abuse.

Damned If I Know

53 posted on 06/20/2005 2:14:25 PM PDT by sharktrager (My life is like a box of chocolates, but someone took all the good ones.)
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To: Jacob Kell

Just keep in mind. The top levels of the "Church" have got the goods on all their celebrity members, and would spill the beans in a heartbeat if anyone of them wanted to leave.


54 posted on 06/20/2005 2:15:03 PM PDT by dfwgator (Flush Newsweek!)
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To: james500
So did the Pablo Escobar organization.

I thought he was masquarading as a coffee company or something similiar.

55 posted on 06/20/2005 2:19:38 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Junior_G
Wow, you must know some extremely nasty Buddhists.

Nah, they are about has harmfull as the Scientologoists or the harry krishnas.

I don't take most of these out of the mainstream offshoots to seriously until they become dangerious or start engaging in serious terrorism or become a threat of some kind.

Every religion has its rouge members, its when the mainstream of that religion becomes (or naturally is) dangerious that I then care.

That said, what is it, Tibet or something, with the monks who know martial arts?

56 posted on 06/20/2005 2:24:03 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: sharktrager
They do claim they can cure anything. A lady my wife and I met about 14 years ago through another friend got mixed up with these idiots because she was carrying about 10 extra pounds and her self esteem was in the crapper.

They told her they'd fix anything she didn't like about herself with classes. She ended up moving from a nice apt. to a place slightly better than a cardboard box so she could afford more classes. Then she quit her job and started working for them. Read that XENU story to see how much they get 'paid'. Last I heard she lives in one of their commune houses and that extra 10 pounds 14 years ago turned into 40 or 50 now.

57 posted on 06/20/2005 2:31:23 PM PDT by libs_kma (USA: The land of the Free....Because of the Brave!)
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To: Sonny M

I agree in general with what you're getting at but just so that I understand your point, let me ask you :
Were "Operation Snow White" and the Lisa MacPherson episode rogue operations or were they the logical result of church policy letters?


58 posted on 06/20/2005 2:34:05 PM PDT by james500
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To: najida

"It may be an Urban legend, but I've heard that on the net, if you critize/badmouth the CofSci you may find lawyers on your doorstep."

Or a rattlesnake in your mailbox.


59 posted on 06/20/2005 2:35:33 PM PDT by Cincinna (BEWARE HILLARY and her HINO)
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To: Sonny M

"A couple of members may have done something but they are about as dangerious as Buddhists"

They have been convicted in a court of Law for homicide.

Where does Greta fit in to all of this?


60 posted on 06/20/2005 2:37:57 PM PDT by Cincinna (BEWARE HILLARY and her HINO)
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