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Beating Up on Fox News (way to go Estrich)
Newsmax ^ | Friday, June 17, 2005 | Susan Estrich

Posted on 06/20/2005 8:05:50 AM PDT by coffee260

I work for Fox News as a commentator. I say whatever I want. I'm the blonde on the left, figuratively and literally – the one who's usually smiling because it's television, not the Supreme Court or Congress, and I find civility more effective in any event.

Besides, why shouldn't I be smiling? Prior to working for Fox, I worked for ABC and NBC, spent a lot of time at CNN and almost ended up at CBS. I worked for a bunch of local stations in Los Angeles and had a talk radio show at KABC for six years. Story Continues Below

In other words, I'm lucky enough to have been around, and Fox News is the best place I've ever worked. I get paid well and treated with respect, and I have job security, which in this business is almost unheard of. More important, the older I get, the more the personal stuff matters. When I got caught at last year's convention in a swirl of missed car connections and painful memories, leaving me on street corners without rides at night when old fears returned, Sean Hannity picked up his own phone and ordered a car for me 24 hours a day on his own dime.

I've come to expect the jabs at Fox News – since, being a liberal, I get more than most. I work there in part because, six or seven years ago, they offered me a better deal than NBC at the time; and because, as a feminist and a Democrat, I think it's particularly important to have a dialogue with people who aren't already members of the same choir I am, since that is the way we will ultimately have to win elections.

I also work there because of my respect for Roger Ailes, the man who created it, and hired me, and to whom I am extremely loyal for reasons having nothing to do with ideology and everything to do with integrity.

The jabs have gotten louder with success. No surprise there. When you get to No. 1 as fast and as impressively as Fox News has, it's a bull's-eye, and Roger would be the last person in the world to expect his competitors to go gently.

But things have taken a personal turn in the last week or so, as the targets have shifted from the institution as a whole to the individuals within it, including some of the most talented people at Fox News. The criticisms have gotten personal, the tone has changed, the volume is up, and the value is down. Neil Cavuto? Brian Wilson? Under attack by a Washington press corps for not probing enough on Iraq (Cavuto) and being too tough on Howard Dean (Wilson)? Give me a break.

Don't get me wrong: I'm not worried about Fox being hurt by this. Quite the contrary. If history is a guide, every time Fox News gets attacked, ratings go up.

More people will watch Cavuto, not fewer.

More people will be looking for Wilson, not fewer.

Neil Cavuto, Fox News' brilliant anchor, sat down to do an interview with George Bush last week on his business show. He didn't discuss Iraq. Neil doesn't cover Iraq. As far as I know, he had nothing new to ask him, nothing new to add and no important new question to pose, and the president had nothing new to say on the topic. There was no news to be made.

So he didn't use the opportunity either to beat up on the president or to let him say something we'd heard a hundred times. Instead, he asked him questions he didn't know the answer to, where he might get an answer he hadn't already heard.

For this, he has been summarily beaten up by the press corps all week – the same press corps that still can't figure out why it got it all wrong about those weapons of mass destruction that justified the war, but would rather have Neil Cavuto ask a pointless question of the president than ask the hard questions of itself.

Then there's Brian Wilson's great sin. In his case, the problem wasn't NOT asking a question, but trying too hard to ask tough ones of the Senate minority leader and the party chairman, who had joined together to make it look as if there was no problem when there very obviously was.

That, and using a swear word in answering a question from a Washington Post reporter – Brian himself later admitted that he wished he'd known it was a Post reporter.

The Dean charge is, of course, the more serious one, particularly since the party chairman has taken to attacking Fox News in recent days. There certainly is disagreement among Democrats as to whether party leaders such as Joe Biden and John Edwards should have gone public with the obvious criticism that Dean had gone too far in calling Republicans a party of white Christians who don't work.

But I'm hard-pressed to think of anybody who will tell you privately that in the midst of debates about such issues as Social Security and the deficits, it's a good idea for the party leader to be turning himself into the issue by engaging in class and religious warfare.

This is precisely what congressional leaders and Dean agreed that Dean would not do when he became the chair of the party. He was supposed to leave the message to them. Having not done so, and having been criticized for it by two possible presidential candidates – neither of whom are even conservatives – Sen. Reid was trying to put the perennial good face on a bad situation, while Brian Wilson was trying to puncture it.

That's what the press is supposed to do, last time I checked. If being obnoxious was a disqualification for being a member of the Washington press corps, it would a lonely crowd.

Former Gov. Dean, asked to respond to Vice President Cheney's comments about him to Fox's Sean Hannity, said, "My view is that Fox News is a propaganda outlet for the Republican Party, and I don't comment on Fox News."

Three times as many people watch Fox every day as watch CNN. There were certainly times during the last campaign where I disagreed with decisions made by young producers working at Fox. But without exception, every time I raised an issue, I won – I saw it as my job to teach off the air, as much as to talk on the air. If anyone disagreed, the joke was that I would tell them to set their stopwatches and transfer me to Roger, so they could time how long it would take me to get their decisions reversed.

It never came to that, but everyone understood the commitment to not make decisions that would even give the appearance that Dean so cavalierly bandies about.

Is Fox News different than the other places I've worked? Sure. It would be silly of me to suggest otherwise. But all of the rest were pretty much alike, which is the larger point that Dean ignores.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: brianwilson; fairandbalanced; fnc; fox; foxnews; mediabias; susan; susanestrich; wilson
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To: speedy
"She is a candidate to end up converting to our side."

While true, I hope she doesn't. As a "D" working inside the belly of the "Republican propaganda machine", she carries a lot of weight with the Libs. If she converts, her voice to the insane will be lost. She is EXACLTY where she needs to be. She causes pain to us from time to time and keeps FOX honest, both of which are important. But, she causes 10's of 1000's of libs to stop and think from time to time, and THAT is critical.
61 posted on 06/20/2005 8:34:09 AM PDT by mad puppy ( "He's with me!" And I'm with W.)
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To: marty60

You misread entirely the thrust of her piece.


62 posted on 06/20/2005 8:35:01 AM PDT by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE.)
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To: coffee260

Still no explanation of why she was drunk on election night...


63 posted on 06/20/2005 8:36:53 AM PDT by clintonh8r (Liberals preach comity and practice calumny.)
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To: Kaslin

Naw, you provided it didn't you?


64 posted on 06/20/2005 8:38:13 AM PDT by dts32041 (Robin Hood, stealing from the government and giving back to tax payer. Where is he today?)
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To: TBarnett34

Whoa! What happened .... Mace Windu redirect the "force lightning" back at her??


65 posted on 06/20/2005 8:40:29 AM PDT by The G Man (The Red States ... the world's only hope for survival.)
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To: Enterprise

No, you have it wrong. It is the Morlock from the original movie "The Time Machine"!


66 posted on 06/20/2005 8:42:07 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (Getting old sucks, but it is the only viable option!)
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To: coffee260
Then there's Brian Wilson's great sin. In his case, the problem wasn't NOT asking a question, but trying too hard to ask tough ones of the Senate minority leader and the party chairman, who had joined together to make it look as if there was no problem when there very obviously was.

That, and using a swear word in answering a question from a Washington Post reporter – Brian himself later admitted that he wished he'd known it was a Post reporter.

I missed this. Anyone know what happened with Brian Wilson?

67 posted on 06/20/2005 8:43:14 AM PDT by CaptRon (Pedecaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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To: Celtjew Libertarian
I was hesitant for that very reason to post this article. But I feel sorry for her when people impersonate her voice on the radio-Laura Ingram. She also seems to me to be a very unhappy person deep down inside.
68 posted on 06/20/2005 8:43:54 AM PDT by coffee260 (coffee)
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To: Redleg Duke
(Best Johnny Carson) "Susan is a Morlok"? I DID NOT know that!"
69 posted on 06/20/2005 8:44:27 AM PDT by Enterprise (Coming soon from Newsweek: "Fallujah - we had to destroy it in order to save it.")
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To: Baynative

"tries to sound like Carole Channing. . . "

Yes! I thought I was the only one who thought that about her.


70 posted on 06/20/2005 8:46:30 AM PDT by Old Grumpy
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To: katykelly
What happened with Kinsley?

Estrich thought Kinsley didn't have enough women writing op-ed pieces for the LA Times, released some E-mails, and suggested that Kinsley's Parkinson's disease was affecting his intellectual abilities.

71 posted on 06/20/2005 8:46:42 AM PDT by Celtjew Libertarian (Shake Hands with the Serpent: Poetry by Charles Lipsig aka Celtjew http://books.lulu.com/lipsig)
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To: martin_fierro

Just smile and wave, boys, smile and wave. (From Madagascar)


72 posted on 06/20/2005 8:50:22 AM PDT by 7thson (I think it takes a big dog to weigh a hundred pounds!)
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To: coffee260
Never have liked what Susan stands for, but I have usually respected her.

Every once in awhile she goes over the line, but basically, she stands for what she believes and does it rather well.

73 posted on 06/20/2005 8:51:09 AM PDT by McGavin999
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To: thoughtomator

Susan Estrich is the only liberal I know who came out and decried Gore's tactics in Florida. Agree with her or not, she can, actually, be fair minded.


74 posted on 06/20/2005 8:54:51 AM PDT by GVnana
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To: Celtjew Libertarian
I scanned Estrich's book in the bookstore, and like with that Kinsley exchange, find her to be silly about feminism. She was spinning like crazy against the Swift Vets - being an advocate by unfairly painting them as liars. So I wouldn't say she's the paragon of fairness. But a more or less stand-up liberal. She doesn't give x42 a pass on his being a sexual predator.

Do any liberals listen to Estrich in a way that makes them appreciate what it takes to be fair? I doubt it.

75 posted on 06/20/2005 8:56:01 AM PDT by NutCrackerBoy
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To: coffee260

Susan hates the unborn just as much as any feminist I have heard from, but this time, for once, she is speaking straight.


76 posted on 06/20/2005 9:01:23 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: thoughtomator

But .. I don't appreciate the fact that such an irrational leftist is able to have that much sway over producers at FOX. Maybe that's why I get so disgusted and just turn it off sometimes. And .. don't forget she's at a university teaching our children her brand of garbage.


77 posted on 06/20/2005 9:21:20 AM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: TBarnett34

Great smile :)


78 posted on 06/20/2005 9:37:01 AM PDT by saveliberty (Liberal= in need of therapy, but would rather ruin lives of those less fortunate to feel good)
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To: coffee260
Estrich wanders into and out of the "honorable liberal" category for me. Sometimes she drinks the Kool Aid like other liberals but she does have a limit and can be quite honest at times.
79 posted on 06/20/2005 9:46:08 AM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: upcountryhorseman

Except when beating up Michael Kinsley at the LAT back in February and March when she was upset about the representation of liberal women on the Op Ed section. Eventually she starting making public attacks about his fitness to serve based on his illness.

Here's a link from Cathy Seipp, who covered this story
http://www.nationalreview.com/seipp/seipp200502171317.asp


80 posted on 06/20/2005 9:46:29 AM PDT by saveliberty (Liberal= in need of therapy, but would rather ruin lives of those less fortunate to feel good)
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