Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2

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[stlnative]

FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts?q=1&&page=1#1

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts?q=1&&page=1#1

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923

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FR Quick Ping List (copy & paste) - active posters to the thread
(there is no real ping list - I really do not have one and I do not plan to make one)
Andy'smom;bonfire;brigette;kcvl;maggiefluffs;No Surrender No Retreat;Palladin;Rippersnapper;sarasota;TexKat;theophilusscribe

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Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

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PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

 

[Howlin]

Did I misstate what I wanted to say: Natalee's mother.

[demkicker]

That makes more sense. I thought you'd dropped a bombshell, indeed!

[maggief]

I heard the same thing Howlin.

Natalee's mom thinks Natalee was at the vdS home at 3:00 am.

[maggief]

Source: FOXNews, John Gibson - Big Story

[Howlin]

There has to be something we do not know.

There is just nothing else that can explain the vitrilic reponses the Hollowys toward that boy and his family -- whatever happened during that short time period that very first night really set them off.

[johnb838]

If the sharks don't eat the body there are plenty of other creepy crawlies that will.

I understand that the duct tape is used by windsurfers to wrap around their hands to prevent blisters so I'm not sure how much can be read into that.

I also understood they found more panties the next day, and haven't heard anything about whether the ones found belonged to her. Now, if they did that could be why they are holding these bozos on suspicion of rape and murder.

Didn't know about teeth impressions, but that would be a positive id, wouldn't it. If they got DNA evidence off the condoms, and dental IDs off a gag, that's pretty good circumstantial.

[the Deejay]

In joran's apt. house out back
of the main house, I suppose.

[the Deejay]

Greta asked Beth what she'd like to do and she said she'd like to talk to joran's parents. Greta says, "Let's go over there."

Apparently, Greta thought of going to their house w/Beth and I'm sure Greta didn't think they'd answer the door but she got a surprise of her life, I'm sure, when they did answer and invite them in.

[maggief]

I hope we get an explanation later tonight.

[the Deejay]

If the sharks don't eat the body there are plenty of other creepy crawlies that will.

Since NH disappeared, I keep thinking of Laci Peterson's remains washing ashore after 4 months in the bay.

[Howlin]

I saw a charter boat captain discussion the water over the weekend; he said if they put her in anywhere south of that lighthouse, she'll never been seen again. Very strong currents going toward South American, I presume.

[the Deejay]

joran and his buds know the currents
all around Aruba.

[stlnative]

only 32 years old

[the Deejay]

And what did not work out for Scott Peterson, may work out for joran.

Scott did not know the bay tides, just assumed her body would go out to sea.

[demkicker]

Greta asked Beth what she'd like to do and she said she'd like to talk to joran's parents. Greta says, "Let's go over there."

Apparently, Greta thought of going to their house w/Beth and I'm sure Greta didn't think they'd answer the door but she got a surprise of her life, I'm sure, when they did answer and invite them in.

ARE YOU KIDDING ME???? OMG! PLEASE TELL US MORE! WAS THIS ALL ON CAMERA? AND DO YOU KNOW IF IT WILL IT BE ON HER SHOW TONIGHT? WOW!

[Howlin]

You nailed it.

[devolve]

"What drives me nuts is when people I know say, 'Oh, you would cover up for your son if he murdered someone.' No, I wouldn't!

This thug's father is a creep." -- utahagen

 Hear Hear! 

[onyx]

Apparently, the apple didn't fall far from the tree.

[the Deejay]

Not kidding.

This is how Greta said it all came about.

Greta was not allowed to have cameras in the house during the visit. Tonight ON the Record, Greta will give us all the details of the visit and Beth (I think) is going to be on w/Greta.

I couldn't make this stuff up! LOL!

[spectre]

Oh DJ...this is incredible. Thank you for this information. Can't wait..

sw