Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2

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FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts?q=1&&page=1#1

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts?q=1&&page=1#1

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923

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FR Quick Ping List (copy & paste) - active posters to the thread
(there is no real ping list - I really do not have one and I do not plan to make one)
Andy'smom;bonfire;brigette;kcvl;maggiefluffs;No Surrender No Retreat;Palladin;Rippersnapper;sarasota;TexKat;theophilusscribe

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Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

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PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

 

[gingersnaps]

I changed computers a year or two ago and lost my original password. So being computer challenged, I changed everything and simply signed up again.

Yep. And I'll bet there are a lot here besides you and me who've done the same.

I understand being suspicious of newbies, but I think I've established my bona fides here (anybody else here remember bcjohnson? or the golden olden days of the pre-exodus, with mojo, trixie et al.?)

Even true newbies should be judged by their reasonableness, not by the fact that they signed up recently. But hey, that's just me.

[Malichi]

No no, I think it's "I could've been A cowboy..." apologies to Toby.
TAW

[demkicker]

Didn't anyone notice that everything was Jug's? My friends, my attorney, my investigators, my, my, my. Jug was petty and arrogant and what is most interesting is that he showed far more contempt towards the father than he does Joran himself. As a matter of fact, the morning after Jug arrived in Aruba, his first press comments indicated that the father was a slimeball or something of that nature.

No, but you just want to bash Jug!!! Incredible that you cannot put yourself in this man's position and have some empathy. HE was the one who witnessed the abnormal behavior by daddy sloot

I've watched Jug's interview again and you are really grasping in your criticism of Jug with your "my, my, my" comments. Give me a break! He was answering Greta's specific questions! Natalee's family has patiently waited for over three weeks for answers. They witnessed the arrogance of daddy sloot and have been the victims of the cruelty of silence regarding what happened to Natalee. Personally, I admire the restraint and civility Jug has shown and think he should be commended.

[demkicker]

Has it been confirmed that Joran was actually at the casino when Natalee's family arrived at the house? Maybe he was right at home in his apartment, and his father wanted to give him some time to get his act together (literally).

It's always seemed odd to me that he could get home from the casino so quickly and without the Twitty group passing him on the way.

I've just been told that daddy sloot has been arrested!!! Hopefully this investigation will start moving faster and something will break soon!

[PBRSTREETGANG]

I think that was saying that the Holiday Inn is a few hundred meters down the beach from the Marriott and that he left to walk home in the other direction (distance unspecified.

If nothing else, Joran is a cad. (Although I personally think he's in this up to his ears.)

[monkeywrench]

"I can't believe these suspects, esp. the three young men, were street smart enough to arrange a kidnapping, abduction, and sale to some Venezuelan slave ring."

No, they aren't smart enough. But, the dad and son liked to gamble, and who knows if they had gambling debts, or to whom those debts would need to be paid.

[Nita Nupress]

I've just been told that daddy sloot has been arrested!!!

Yee-haw!! Round 'em up, cowboys! Maybe they're not the Keystone Cops after all.

[Nita Nupress]

Are we the only ones watching the news, demkicker? Where is everyone?!

[sarasota]

It's in Breaking, so I went over there....

[johnb838]

I'm very sorry... I didn't mean any sort of attack. I was pointing out the attitude of the Aruban officials and their priorities. From our standpoint it's good that PVDS's career is probably shot, but in their eyes whatever happened to Natalie is probably less important than what it's doing to business.

I'm not sure why I related that story really... I suppose to illustrate how close to the surface the animal is in some men.

Please accept my apology.

[Howlin]

Retread. And I'm no longer wonder why you won't say who you use to be.

[Nita Nupress]

Yeah, I see that now.

Paul Van Der Sloot, Judge, Father of Suspect in Aruba is arrested.
CNN ^ | 6-22-05 | CNN
 

Posted on 06/23/2005 1:49:39 PM CDT by dogbyte12
 

Breaking News. Judge Paul Van Der Sloot, father of one of the suspects in the Aruba missing persons case has been arrested and is in police custody.
 

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...

[demkicker]

Are we the only ones watching the news, demkicker? Where is everyone?!

Guess so, Nita! I've got to be away for a while myself, but will tune in later. I sure hope Joran decides to start spilling his guts now that daddy has been arrested!

[texasbluebell]

I'm back! Just turned on the tv and saw the news!

Well, it happened sooner than I thought. Actually didn't even think Papa would be picked up.

This should be interesting.

[texasbluebell]

Greta: Either he will be released tonight at 8pm, or he will be held for the next 8 days. Up to the prosecutor.

[texasbluebell]

Was just reading over on courttv. Someone reported that Greta said she went to the VDS house this morning and no one was home. She went back there a little while ago, and the house is boarded up now!

http://boards.courttv.com/showthread.php?s=0a9d73355e5afccf9453e98bcccecd79&threadid=228598&perpage=10&pagenumber=3

[Nita Nupress]

Nita, it was I who said she sold out. It is to my understanding the interview was to be attended by both Ms Holloway&Greta Van Cistern. Greta being the scoop happy individual like her brother Whoraldo had to go it alone. As a professional courtesy, Greta should have held off the second interview and waited to see why Ms Holloway could not attend.

We'll just have to agree to disagree on this one. IMHO, Greta's role is first & foremost a journalist, and professional journalists are supposed to present both sides. She would have been crazy to pass up that exclusive interview with the Snoots.

FWIW, Sheperd just asked her "live" on TV what her next step this afternoon was going to be...where was she headed after she was done with their interview. Greta hesitated a second, then said "I'm not going to answer that because I don't want to tip off CNN." She said that yesterday (or this morning?), the CNN people showed up at her location 30 minutes after she got there (wherever that was. It was unclear but I think she was referring to the Snoot...[freudian slip]... interview.)

Thanks for responding and speaking up.

[MAWG]

" Where is everyone?"


Working.

[gingersnaps]

Thanks, I appreciate that. I've always liked and admired your posts.

[sodpoodle]

Maybe they're not the Keystone Cops after all.
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Glad to see your comment. I got off track on a breaking news item and made the same remark, which got me smacked.

We have been so starved for facts from the Aruba investigators - that we have substituted our own voices.

Silence invites noise.

Natalee is still lost - everything else is redundant.
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