Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2

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FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts?q=1&&page=1#1

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts?q=1&&page=1#1

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923

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FR Quick Ping List (copy & paste) - active posters to the thread
(there is no real ping list - I really do not have one and I do not plan to make one)
Andy'smom;bonfire;brigette;kcvl;maggiefluffs;No Surrender No Retreat;Palladin;Rippersnapper;sarasota;TexKat;theophilusscribe

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Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

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PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

 

[Howlin]

It's against forum rules to take arguments from one thread to another.

You're stalking demkicker.

[PBRSTREETGANG]

It has also come to our attention that in Alamaba alone there are numerous persons missing right now...

"I come from Alamaba with a bajno on my knee."

[CitizenM]

Right. That chaperone stated the FBI had not asked them not to talk. I think, however, between Nat's family and the chaperones there was an agreement that the chaperones would not talk. In order not to hamper Nat's mom's efforts down there. IIRC

[Palladin]

See my posts and google him,,he is an affable criminal Does Greta know about this? She may be the next one kidnapped!!! =:0

[Rippersnapper]

(I can see why some may have thought it was a Taxi, as the Taxi's in Aruba look like regular cars with a portable removable magnetic Taxi signs)

Wonder if you can buy those magnetic detachable signs anywhere?

[the Deejay]

without the presence of lawyers.

Or parents, giving hand & face signals.

[hershey]

I marvel that the Aruban authorities manage to function at all with the mass media camped on their doorstep morning, noon, and night. That alone has to be a nightmare.

[Rippersnapper]

The phone was tapped and Paulus was overheard telling JvdS not to talk.

Obstruction of justice?

[onyx]

I can't see how Natalee can be knocked even if she went willingly with JVDS. Small islands present a sense of security (however false). I remember being young, single and accepting a ride from a local fellow on Grand Cayman Island and everything turned out just fine. We are still friends 35 years later.

[Rippersnapper]

The man who witnessed this said he called police or someone in authority, and they blew him off. Was this Natalee?

Wonder if he was the decapitated guy?

[maggief]

Did you happen to read ken5050's Aruban taxi story? I'll repost it.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts?page=66#66

First night there..we're staying at a hotel out on the beach..can't remember the name..we couldn't get a rent- a car at the airport..told they were all gone..so we took a taxi...I'm somewhat gregarious on vacation, and tend to overtip those I like....was joking with the bellman who took our bags into the hotel..we had a dinner resrvation that night at the floating Indonesian restaurant in town..really neat place..wonderful food...I asked the bellman how long a ride it was..he told me, then suggested that his brother was a wonderul cab driver, and he'd be happy to arrange to have his brother pick us up at 8:30 that night..I figured that I was being scammed a bit, but always enjoy someone with a good spiel...so I readily concurred..That night, we;re dressed, come down to tthe hotel lobby at 8:25..there are are about 75 coupeles in the lobby screaming and yelling because there are NO cabs, and they all have to get to restaurants all over the island..I see MY doorman..he waves at me..calls us out to the front of the hotel..waves his arm..his brother and his taxi appear right in front..and there are 50 or so dumbstruck people looking at us like we must be royalty or something..It was station wagon, so after my wife was seated, I turned to the mob, announce where we were going said that we could take 4 more with us Two couples jumped in..turned out to be a wonderful evening...they were all really nice..and they wouldn't let me pay for either the cab both ways..because of course "MY" cab met us for the return ride..and our diner.. we spent several nights with them both that week...

[onyx]

I'm fairly pleased with the parents having that sit down in their home with Greta and Natalee's mother. I doubt that would happen here... each side would be lawyered up. Of course the VDS's want to think their boy is innocent, but I credit them for talking directly to Natalee's mom.

[Rippersnapper]

Cores is the one that said he liked to sail on his tickle site. I'm pretty sure that one of his friends had Steve's pic on his site and it said that Steve Croes was an able seaman.

Maybe someone now is lying to take the heat off him?

[the Deejay]

I credit them for talking directly to Natalee's mom.

Indeed.

And Greta & Beth didn't have to plead to speak w/them.

[Toespi]

I would only hope that if an Aruban girl were missing in the US, we would be as tolerant with the demands, intrutions, and arrogance as their government has been. Of course, the "fiction novel" about a girl missing in paradise will sell better and that is because missing girls, children and women are a common place occurence in the US, hardly makes front page news anymore. Beth Twitty has to be devastated and my heart breaks for her, however IMHO she has done more harm than good with her threats and innuendo.

[Rippersnapper]

That's the exact question I posed to my husband "how did he get to C&C's after his father brought him home from McaD's?"

F-R-I-E-N-D-S

[ken5050]

Whew..thought I did something bad...BTW, if you're gonna repost my stuff, next time kindly correct the typos..and feel free to edit out all my dangling participles..(g)

[Rippersnapper]

If she is on the island the Searchers from Texas will find her. I'm here in Houston and familiar with how they work. They wont stop

Are they there now?

[onyx]

I'm just not ready to paint the parents "involved and covering up." You know they WANT to believe their son is innocent. The father telling the boy to "quit talking" was presented by someone I watched (Greta?) in response to him mouthing off at school. I find that difficult to believe, but then again, the father was studying to be a judge.

It's a sickening mess.

[Rippersnapper]

Note, Trappenberg {whom I have a crush on} now admits numerous missing persons on the island.

Ah, so his story is changing, too!