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What just happened in sky over Los Angeles?
finny

Posted on 06/19/2005 8:27:21 PM PDT by Finny

About ten minutes ago, Husband in hills behind Brea, between Brea and Chino Hills, spotted in the northwest what looked like something entering the atmosphere. We grabbed binoculars, and it was extremely high altitude, coming in, not going out. Anybody see it? Can probably still spot it further north, as in Pasadena, etc. Grab binocs and look.


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To: Finny
Hmmm. Similar diverging converging effects:


381 posted on 06/20/2005 7:14:49 PM PDT by null and void (You will never be really good at anything you do just for the money...)
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To: Finny

I think it was a Host, in the Sun.


382 posted on 06/20/2005 7:15:27 PM PDT by Guillermo (42% of suicide bombers in Iraq are Saudi and Bush continues to lick their boots)
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To: Finny

Does it look like a Host on the Sun? Probably only if you are blond, classy and green-eyed.


383 posted on 06/20/2005 7:15:56 PM PDT by hispanarepublicana (I was Lucy Ramirez when being Lucy Ramirez wasn't cool.)
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To: Finny
Is there really such thing as the Aurora?

Yes there isn't.

Something had to fill the mission role of the SR-71 before they could retire it...

384 posted on 06/20/2005 7:16:29 PM PDT by null and void (You will never be really good at anything you do just for the money...)
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To: Kirkwood

Yes. Whaddaya think? I know it looks a lot like the pics you've posted of regular ol' jets (if there's any such thing!). Again, husband insists that at such a high altitude as this was, condensation couldn't have existed, and it was way, way too far off to see the glow of afterburners. Is there such thing as an Aurora, and if so, perhaps is this what this was? Also, check Freepmail.


385 posted on 06/20/2005 7:17:30 PM PDT by Finny (God continue to Bless President G.W. Bush with wisdom, popularity, safety and success.)
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To: Irving Two Smokes
A while back I heard a sonic boom early in the morning about 4 A.M. over So.Cal. I suspected it might be Aurora.

Does anybody know if a N. Korean missile coming in will have a sonic boom? ...not that it matters.

386 posted on 06/20/2005 7:18:04 PM PDT by MensRightsActivist
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To: MensRightsActivist

Yes. It will, but by the time anyone near the target hears it, they will be dead.


387 posted on 06/20/2005 7:21:19 PM PDT by null and void (You will never be really good at anything you do just for the money...)
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To: Finny

HUGH!!!! This is it!!!!

He's finally arrived!!

This could be HUGH!!!!!


388 posted on 06/20/2005 7:28:44 PM PDT by Scarchin (www.classdismissedblog.com.)
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To: Finny
Is there really such thing as the Aurora? Maybe that's what it was.

What I posted is just somebody's guess as to what it would look like if it really exists. We do know that the Lockheed SR-71 spyplane has been officially retired and that no replacement has been named (as far as I know.) If there is a replacement, and it is a good bet that there is, it would be stealthy and superior in performance to the SR-71. So the artists conception is a reasonable bet as to what it would look like.

It could be what you saw. Maybe some of the aero-wiz types on FR could weigh in on the subject. I would like to hear their opinion.

389 posted on 06/20/2005 7:33:20 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: Finny
From your original post, it must have been ~8:15 PM PDT when you first spotted the object. Am I correct in assuming that the sun had already set (on the ground) at your location by then?

I have seen many interesting aerial phenomena in the hour or two following sunset (when the earth is dark, but the upper atmosphere is still illuminated). For example, the huge, clear polyethylene research baloons that were launched here in TX, went from barely visible against the blue sky to as brilliant as a star. Then, as the sunlight passed through its "red sunset" atmospheric path, the baloon went from bright golden white to golden to coppery, and then, before vanishing, a brilliant fiery red. That is also the time when the beautiful "noctilucent clouds" are sometimes visible. It is also the time when short contrails can look like brilliant, colorful light-emitters against the darkening sky.

BTW, I am an avid, lifelong aircraft watcher. I grew up on the runway approaches to Ellington AFB near Houston (now used by NASA), and, before I got glasses, at one time was able to ID over 50 A/C types by sound alone. As a kid/teenager, I wore out several pairs of binocs (and trashed several screen doors) running outside to look at planes. ;-} I also served as A/C identification instructor for the Cold War-era "Ground Observer Corps".

I really wish I could have been there to observe (whatever you saw) with -- especially with a small telescope available!

My guess is that it may well have been military/experimental, and may have been making a descent/approach to some place like Nellis. (Or, even the mysterious "Groom Lake" (AKA "Area 51"]...)

If what you saw wasn't an ordinary, multi-engine aircraft with sun-illuminated short contrails, I expect it may well have been something like this:

As I said earlier, I'm convinced the US didn't give up the SR-71's capability -- without having something with faster, higher, and stealthier capabilities avalable...

Perhaps you just managed to be looking the right direction at the right time...

390 posted on 06/20/2005 7:41:48 PM PDT by TXnMA (ATTN, ACLU & NAACP: There's no constitutionally protected right to NOT be offended -- Shove It!)
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To: Dashing Dasher

I like that philosophy. I hope your friend is right.


391 posted on 06/20/2005 7:43:12 PM PDT by Finny (God continue to Bless President G.W. Bush with wisdom, popularity, safety and success.)
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To: Finny

Multiple friends.

The main one was Director of Stealth Technology for Skunkworks during the development of the F117.

I'll take his word for it.


392 posted on 06/20/2005 7:50:43 PM PDT by Dashing Dasher (Great hopes make great men. - - - Thomas Fuller)
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To: Dashing Dasher

LOL!(more cow bell)


393 posted on 06/20/2005 7:52:05 PM PDT by RckyRaCoCo ("When you have to shoot, shoot, don't talk!")
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To: RckyRaCoCo
Do you think they have Cowbell in UFOs?


394 posted on 06/20/2005 7:54:14 PM PDT by Dashing Dasher (Great hopes make great men. - - - Thomas Fuller)
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To: TXnMA
Sun had gone below the ridge on the other side of canyon, but would have still been up over the beach (some 25 miles southwest).

If it was like that aircraft in your picture, it was definitely like Gemini reentry where it was heating up surace and that was the flare we saw coming off the fuselage. As for illumation changes from setting sun -- it was self lit, husband says. The only illumation might have been point of bright light as it banked, and at that altitude might very well have been headed toward Nevada, husband says.

Love the fact that you trashed screen doors racing outside to see! We got a big kick out of that -- kindred spirit! Wow, also, impressed that you could identify by sound so many aircraft!

The dynamics of reflective light and setting sun are of great professional interest to my husband, as he must know them well in order to do his artwork, which consists primarily of military aircraft generally in dogfights! Explains why his eyes are so often skyward. He's even got me looking at cloud formations. *sigh* And it's a sad day when an innocent little woman like myself knows the difference between an ME 109 and a FW 190. I have been corrupted. But I STILL have lots and lots of shoes, so at least some semblance of my Inner Woman remains intact!

395 posted on 06/20/2005 7:55:34 PM PDT by Finny (God continue to Bless President G.W. Bush with wisdom, popularity, safety and success.)
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To: Dashing Dasher
Well duh! Why do you think they mutilate cows?
396 posted on 06/20/2005 7:57:27 PM PDT by null and void (You will never be really good at anything you do just for the money...)
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To: null and void
---Yeah. Some day I'll even tell you how high is up?---

"up" is anything over my eyebrows.

397 posted on 06/20/2005 7:59:05 PM PDT by smonk
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To: null and void
DOH!


398 posted on 06/20/2005 7:59:23 PM PDT by Dashing Dasher (Great hopes make great men. - - - Thomas Fuller)
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To: InterceptPoint; Finny; Dashing Dasher; All
Is there really such thing as the Aurora? Maybe that's what it was. Here is what is probably the best-informed speculation on the matter that you're likely to encounter:

www.fas.org/irp/ mystery/aurora.htm

399 posted on 06/20/2005 7:59:30 PM PDT by TXnMA (ATTN, ACLU & NAACP: There's no constitutionally protected right to NOT be offended -- Shove It!)
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To: TXnMA

Link didn't work ... rats!


400 posted on 06/20/2005 8:03:26 PM PDT by Finny (God continue to Bless President G.W. Bush with wisdom, popularity, safety and success.)
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