Canada's medical gulag

Townhall.com ^ | 6/19/05 | Paul Jacob

[wagglebee]

Every Canadian I've ever talked to despises their healthcare system and every Canadian who can afford it comes to America for vital surgeries. The members of the American left who want to bring this here have either never talked to ordinary Canadians about it, or simply don't care (which is probably the case with Hitlery).

[Paul Atreides]

Socialists just want to make sure that everyone is miserable, instead of a small few.

[BipolarBob]

Liberals mourn that this news has leaked out.

[Polybius]

In emphatic arrogance, Martin asserted, "We are not going to have a two-tier health care system in this country. Nobody wants that."

There is already a two-tier health care system in Canada.

Members of the federal Parliament and 4,364 high-ranking federal bureaucrats can avoid waiting lists because they have access to the National Defense Medical Center. In 1990, the Canadian Auditor General reported that 61 percent of the center’s in-patient days were for nonmilitary patients. "Politicians jump the queue by going to a military hospital."

[wagglebee]

I know several wealthy Canadians who routinely come to the US for medical care, they are simply unwilling to take their chances. The other problem is that lack of free enterprise has resulted in many top-notch Canadian doctors leaving Canada to earn more money.

[mmercier]

Yet another nauseating read from up north.

Throw out this government at the polls. Seeing that is as likely as a second blue moon in a month, please stop the bitc*ing. Emigrate, revolt, or just learn accept it.

Canada serves the Quebec communists, no number of unnecessary deaths, and no amount of suffering is enough for these lords. They want to die, but first they shall see everyone else die. It is the nature of the communist.

Canada got themselves into this socialist rat hole, what should we do down here to help, write letters to your communist lords and hope they pay us heed..?

They don't listen to you up there, why on earth would they listen to us down here...?

Emigrate or die, but please, don't scream on the way down... It gives the rest of us nightmares.

[what's up]

Every Canadian I've ever talked to despises their healthcare system

I know a couple of Canadians who speak reverently of their healthcare system. They like it because it's something uniquely theirs, not a reflection of the US.

Goodie for them.

[Asfarastheeastisfromthewest...]

Every Canadian I've ever talked to despises their healthcare system

I know a couple of Canadians who speak reverently of their healthcare system. They like it because it's something uniquely theirs, not a reflection of the US.

You're both right. I'm a Canadian who despises our healthcare system. However, it has been around so long that the masses have not learned how to think for themselves as far as considering the validity of other possibilities. They are like 35 year old children still living at home because mom and dad didn't bring them up to learn how to think objectively and to grow up with a spirit of independence. These are the ones who probably will say they love the healthcare system... it's been around so long they don't know anything else and all they've every heard in their life is 'any alternative will bankrupt you if God help you you ever get sick. This crowd has never been weaned off pablum. For every bump in the road, this group will be the first to say 'the guvmint outta do somethin' 'bout dat. The members of a nanny state panic when the suggestion is raised that the nanny many go on a holiday. This is a first class example of socialism once it has come to fruition. Lots of reasons how it grew to this state but right now, this is mostly due to the incredibly leftist media which so many rank and file Canadians have swallowed hook, line and sinker.

[Gay State Conservative]

They'll change their minds the minute they're diagnosed with anything even remotely resembling a serious disease.

[Doe Eyes]

I'm sure Canadians look longingly toward our system that finances health care.

Medicaid/Medicare running close to 500 billion a year (but that's not socialism?) and American businesses going bankrupt due to health care costs.

[rasblue]

In a massive Ipsos/Reid survey released yesterday 57% of Canadians want the government to use the "Nonwithstanding Clause" of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms to stop two-tier health care. (Yes, Canada has a Supreme Court Override clause in its constitution)
The funny thing about the survey though says that 70% of Canadians would use two-tier health care. Hmmm, the numbers truly do tell the story.

As a Canadian (Windsor,ON home of the Minutemen North) I call thell you that medicare is based on socialistic "equality" beliefs. Dubious at best.

The two-tier restrictions though are based upon ENVY as the numbers show above. The basic belief being that if "I can't get good care, you can't either."
Its second class equal care for all, by law, enforced by the socialist governement.

Remember, Canadians are a "simple" people. Most are working class. Having "Daddy Warbucks" buy good care while the proles have public second rate care stirs up negative envious feelings within the majority of the population.

[Mad Mammoth]

A great article, I wonder what that new Freeper 'CanadianGirl' might have to say about that?

Oh wait, that troll only had a two-day life span before being banned from FR. LOL! (6-15-05 / 6-17-05)

That must be what it's like to be waiting for life saving surgery in the Peoples Republic, eh?

"Two days, tops!"

CG, I *KNOW* you are reading this. And you still suck.

Have A Nice Week!

[hosepipe]

[ Medicaid/Medicare running close to 500 billion a year (but that's not socialism?) and American businesses going bankrupt due to health care costs. ]

Exactly.. The myth America is not a socialist system NOW has been SWALLOWED by most RINOs.. Between America, Canada and URP it is just HOW socialist are you, its not IF you are socialists.. Democrats ALREADY know we are.. they just want more of it..

Must be WHY the word socialist is the most rarely used word in the halls of congress..
THEY ALL know it, but some are in denial others want the secret kept..

[traviskicks]

http://www.neoperspectives.com/canadahealthcare.htm

articles and commentary (more examples of canda killing it's citizens)

[traviskicks]

thanks for posting that.

[Kozak]

My uncle used to talk that way. Canada's health care was wonderful, the US was terrible because of the greedy doctors.

Then he needed bypass surgery, which at that time was not available in Canada at all. Reason being it " did not show increased longevity, although it did provide an increased quality of life". So I get a call from my uncle asking me how he could get a CABG in the US. By the way he still hates the US, although he no longer worships Canada's medical system.

[listenhillary]

"did not show increased longevity, although it did provide an increased quality of life"

Is this "THE" measuring stick used for who gets care?

[Jim Noble]

Interesting that they are going to close Walter Reed AND Bethesda, replacing both with the National Military Medical Center, affiliated with NIH.

Guess the Congressmen are thinking ahead...

[Snowyman]

"Is this "THE" measuring stick used for who gets care?

No. Canadians get bypass surgery everyday. In Canada .

[RavenATB]

You're correct, but not addressing the point which drives the left.

It's better that everyone suffer and some die, than a single Democrat ever be held responsible to pay for his/her own medical needs.