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9/11 -Blocked by media but never to be forgotten
BBC ^ | 6/18/05 | TC

Posted on 06/18/2005 10:40:45 AM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection

OTHER WARS HAVE MEMORIAL DAYS, 9/11 IS BEING CLOAKED AS A STAIN ON AMERICAN HISTORY. PLEASE DO NOT FORGET WHAT THE MEDIA REFUSES TO SHOW.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911; neverforget; news
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
Jim Rob has booted many people with controversy ensuing. He stood his ground and his reasons, whatever they might be, are good enough for me.

Oh, I know M-n R, I know. I've been through all the ups and downs here for the last seven years, just like you and 90% of the time I agree with JR, but still we;ve lost a lot of good people over the years.

Then again, there have been others that JR gave way to much slack before they got the boot, IMO.

221 posted on 06/18/2005 8:05:02 PM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: hispanarepublicana

Suerte.


222 posted on 06/18/2005 8:07:23 PM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection (http://hour9.blogspot.com/)
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To: LS
http://hereisnewyork.org/gallery/thumb.asp?categoryID=-1

5690 photos. Best not to use their bandwidth linking their pictures.

HERE IS NEW YORK is a non for profit 501(c)(3) foundation organized for purposes that are exclusively charitable and educational.

We are just a few volunteers, and as a result, we have a limited ability to respond to inquiries.

223 posted on 06/18/2005 8:08:28 PM PDT by listenhillary (Socialists have only killed 100 million. We'll never learn will we?)
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To: All

http://hereisnewyork.org/gallery/thumb.asp?categoryID=-1


224 posted on 06/18/2005 8:10:04 PM PDT by listenhillary (Socialists have only killed 100 million. We'll never learn will we?)
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To: Northern Yankee
Read the 9/11 report. Sorry the names you cited are not reputable sources.
225 posted on 06/18/2005 8:16:29 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: LS

You mean the books I see are not yours when I click your FR homepage?


226 posted on 06/18/2005 8:17:08 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Yes, the liberal MEDIA wants us to forget about Spetember 11th, 2001. Instead they accuse our BRAVE troops of torturing people like nazis and Cambodians just because they are trying to get information about FUTURE attacks. HUMAN RIGHTS DON'T APPLY TO NON-COMBANTANTS!!! Every world court knows this!!!!

If only there was a way we could get the LIEberals to go to Gitmo. I'm sure the troops would love to show them how valuble their so-called "rights" are when faced with TERRORISM.


227 posted on 06/18/2005 8:17:29 PM PDT by DeepRed
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To: LS
Suggested reading for the students?

Here Is New York: A Democracy of Photographs

228 posted on 06/18/2005 8:30:56 PM PDT by listenhillary (Socialists have only killed 100 million. We'll never learn will we?)
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To: Destro
9/11 report... from the likes of Bob Kerry, Jamie Gorlick, and Richard Ben Venista?

Those reputable sources?

Gotcha!

Look... all I know is that the information out there gives credible evidence showing that there was a link between Al Queda and Huessein in finances. Information shows that Ouday and Quosay Huessein(Sorry about the spelling...) were intimately involved with financing some of these operations, including setting up terrorist camps with Al Queda.

Certainly its your prerogative to dismiss such information.

I appreciate your passion!

Regards...

Jay

229 posted on 06/18/2005 8:42:51 PM PDT by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier)
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To: LS

Actully I look forward to conventional publishing and eventual best-seller status. I just think the 1 in a million odds faced by first time novelists are too steep to make the standard 5th Avenue initial approach worthwhile. I'm just trying to climb my way onto the bottom of the ladder, instead of waiting for 5th Avenue to toss me down a thread.


230 posted on 06/18/2005 8:49:40 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Let's not forget our fellow freeper that perished that day doing his duty. BCM, I haven't forgotten.


231 posted on 06/18/2005 8:56:03 PM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (You can turn your head away from the Berg video and still hear Al Queda's calls to prayer.)
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To: Northern Yankee
Yea - listen - I love conspiracy theories - believe none of them.

If thinking we invaded Iraq because of Iraq's 9/11 links and that makes you accept the war so be it.

234 posted on 06/18/2005 9:18:36 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

bttt


235 posted on 06/18/2005 9:21:51 PM PDT by lainde
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To: Destro
Strategically, once the Taliban was toppled, there was no reason to use Afghanistan as the theatre of battle. Just as there was no reason to sit and wait for the terrorists to strike again.

First, it was Lebanon in 1983; second, the Archille Laurel in 1985; third, the USS Cole in 2000; and fourth, the World Trade Center in 1993. The final straw was 9-11.

It was our military's last resort to bring the terrorists out of hiding. We now had the opportunity to choose our field of battle. Our military could choose a terrain that they knew and studied in previous battle, a terrain that they were best equipped for, an area that would be centrally located in the Mid-East, and a country where people fled and told of horrific humanitarian conditions. This country was where people lived in terror of their own government. No other target met these conditions better than Iraq.

Sadam Hussein was the prime leader of American hatred throughout the years. He would rally the people in the streets to burn American flags and effigies of American leaders. If we did not find terror training camps or weapons of mass destruction when we got there, that does not mean they did not exist. He used terror and genocide on the Kurds of Iraq, and his detractors, as well. The Shah of Iran, Omar Khadafi, and Sadam were the grass roots of terrorism.

The insurgents that are there now are better fought there than any place else. Anyone that believes we should pull out of Iraq should consider the whole situation again. Iraq certainly did have a direct link to 9/11. It had a link to every act of terrorism mentioned above. However, if for nothing else, we should be in Iraq and have ousted Saddam just for the terror he used on his own people and the acts of genocide committed by him and his regime.

Given time, he could have followed in the steps of Hitler; and if not him, his sons would have been the next threat. It is good that the terrorists are now being kept busy in Iraq. It is good that Sadaam Hussein is finally in jail were he belongs. He is an evil and ruthless man. To pull out of Iraq now would be foolish. There are still a number of people that need to be brought to justice. This time we need to finish what was hoisted upon us on 9/11. If we forget 9/11 and leave now, we will be sitting ducks once again. Personally, I feel that the close to 2,000 casualties that were suffered would be in vain if we pulled out now.

236 posted on 06/18/2005 9:23:46 PM PDT by World'sGoneInsane (LET NO ONE BE FORGOTTEN, LET NO ONE FORGET)
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To: All; Tumbleweed_Connection
I was listening to Laura Ingraham the other morning and she had a women on who is a journalist (I believe) I forgot her name. Anyway she was telling about the 911 Memorial and how there has been appointed a committee to come up with what to put in the Memorial.

They decided on a theme of WHAT MAN HAS DONE TO HUMANITY. She said they are going to put in stuff about how the Americans treated the Indians, and how we treated the Japanese/Americans, etc. BUT NOTHING ABOUT WHAT THE ISLAMISTS TERRORISTS DID TO US ON 911.

237 posted on 06/18/2005 9:32:25 PM PDT by Spunky ("Everyone has a freedom of choice, but not of consequences.")
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To: Travis McGee; LS
Travis, may I ask without you having to give any direct numbers was self publishing worth it for your book? In terms of making a a profit - broke even, some profit or healthy return on investment?

These last couple of years I have avoided all fiction books (if you don't count comic books) and read mostly nonfiction history books.

The one exception is self published works from the underground - be it zombie tales or survivalist tracts by members of the survivalist community and your book.

Your book falls into the lines of books by people with a political agenda that want to highlight that agenda through a work of fiction.

I like reading these books because there is an electric charge about them because the authors are "on a mission" so they write tracts disguised as novels rather than true novels.

Sadly, these books lack character development and are so into getting their politics out that their plots are clunky.

Then comes your book 'ENEMIES FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC'. Your book had actual people. You wrote fully fleshed out characters. You could not tell it was written by someone with an agenda - a book written as a warning. In many ways it was like George Orwell's writing with the Tom Clancy flair. Also it is a heavy book - by that I mean not only does it have lots of pages and words and is heavy in terms of weight but heavy in terms of plot. You read it with a lump in your neck and a knot in your stomach. You feel paranoid afterwords.

Lastly, for a first time author you work was anything but amateurish. I found no rookie writer's errors in the book. I look forward to the follow up book.

238 posted on 06/18/2005 9:32:40 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: World'sGoneInsane

Well, what you described is not saying Iraq was involved in 9/11. I don't mind what you wrote and there is validity to your analysis. What I ask is that my leaders tell me this and not try and confuse the issue by dumbing it down and trying to link 9/11 to Saddam.


239 posted on 06/18/2005 9:42:50 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Destro; LS

Thanks, I'd better get back to work on book 2 now, and stop freeping.

We would all like to jump straight into Clancy or Cussler or Grisham's situation, but that's not reality. Here is an analogy I like: a basketball game half time contest, to make a free throw from the full length of the court for one million dollars.

If you filmed thousands and thousands of contestants, you would be able to clip together some swishes, and it would thereby look like a reasonable propostion to practice for years to take your one shot.

In reality, it would be foolish, because for each shot made, thousands would miss.

The few best sellers in the book store are those few swish shots. For each one, there are ten thousand unsold manuscripts, and one hundred books which were published, but did not exceed their advance and perished unsold on the shelves.

My goal is to reach the best seller status, which is simply an unrealistic goal by the normal rules of the publishing world: spend three years practicing, and take your one long shot.

No thanks.

I've been "in the black" from the beginning, controlling the entire process. Sooner or later, I'll cross over into a standard publishing contract for one of my books, and the earlier ones will be rereleased. That's my hope, anyway. But in the meantime, I'm writing what I want to write, and people are reading my work. I just wish I was more productive in getting the next book written.


240 posted on 06/18/2005 10:05:15 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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