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Anger erupts as EU summit fails
BBC News ^ | Saturday, 18 June, 2005

Posted on 06/18/2005 4:45:25 AM PDT by Panerai

A bitter war of words has erupted among EU states after the failure to reach an agreement on the union's future budget.

German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder blamed UK and Dutch obduracy for one of the EU's "gravest" crises.

UK Foreign Secretary Jack Straw expressed sadness, but said the failure could prove a turning point.

The EU's current president Jean Claude Juncker said he was ashamed poorer countries had offered to cut their EU income to reach a deal.

The summit collapsed after Britain refused to accept a demand by France and some other countries to accept a reduction in its EU rebate.

The BBC's correspondent in Brussels, William Horsley, says the recriminations mark perhaps the deepest and most spectacular bust-up ever in the EU.

It comes just weeks after voters plunged the union into uncertainty by rejecting its proposed new constitutional treaty.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.bbc.co.uk ...


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KEYWORDS: europeanunion; eusummit; germany; uk
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1 posted on 06/18/2005 4:45:25 AM PDT by Panerai
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To: Panerai; knighthawk

Not a surprise. TANSTAAFL- There ain't no such thing as a free lunch.


2 posted on 06/18/2005 4:48:45 AM PDT by RobFromGa (Send Bolton to the UN!)
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To: RobFromGa

more of the article...

UK 'pathetic'

The failure of the talks gave way to verbal sparring, as France, Germany and Luxembourg rounded on fellow member states.

French President Jacques Chirac said Britain's behaviour was "pathetic", adding he was shocked by the "arrogance of several rich countries" in the talks.
The UK rejected proposals to limit its annual rebate without a wider reform of the EU's agricultural subsidies.

Chancellor Schroeder said the summit failed because of the "totally unaccepting attitude" of Britain and the Netherlands, while Luxembourg Prime Minister and EU President Jean-Claude Juncker spoke of a "profound crisis" in Europe.

Britain, however, defended itself against the criticism, saying it was not alone in rejecting the proposed deal.

Speaking to the BBC on Saturday, Jack Straw said he was dismayed but optimistic.

"It is in many ways a sad day for Europe. But out of this sad day there is an opportunity to reconnect."

He said Britain would take the responsibility of leading the debate on the EU's future when it assumes the body's rotating presidency next month, although he conceded the task would be difficult.

"This will be seen as something of a turning point for the European Union. Sometimes to secure a turn in democracies, there has to be a shock," he said.

'Cause for shame'

As the talks disintegrated, 10 EU newcomers from Eastern Europe offered to cut their funding to salvage a deal, although their call went unheeded.

Mr Juncker said that only made matters worse.
"When I heard one after the other, all the new member countries, each poorer than the other, say that in the interest of reaching an agreement they would be ready to renounce some of their financial demands, I was ashamed."

But Britain said it has the backing of four or five other EU states in its rejection of the budget.

UK Prime Minister Tony Blair said the rebate was needed to compensate for the distortions caused by agricultural subsidies, the biggest beneficiary of which is France.



3 posted on 06/18/2005 4:50:52 AM PDT by RobFromGa (Send Bolton to the UN!)
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To: Panerai

Good time to be investing in the Euro


4 posted on 06/18/2005 4:52:29 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Panerai

This time, if they start a war "over there" let us stay "over here"!


5 posted on 06/18/2005 4:54:42 AM PDT by SubMareener (Become a monthly donor! Free FreeRepublic.com from Quarterly FReepathons!)
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To: Always Right

I'm rather confident this will in fact be a great time to be investing in the euro. Whenever assets are manipulated by non-market forces, they always rebound sooner or later. This current bickering doesn't represent anything different from an economic standpoint. Moreover, the next several years will surely bring a few government changes in the EU that should lead to notable economic benefits, beginning with Schröder's ouster in Germany.

This is not a good time to be investing in Turkish lira, however..


6 posted on 06/18/2005 4:59:47 AM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: Always Right
Good time to be investing in the Euro

I assume you mean by shorting it. There's no way it's going anywhere but down in the long run.

7 posted on 06/18/2005 5:09:36 AM PDT by Maceman (The Qur'an is Qur'ap.)
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To: AntiGuv
I'm rather confident this will in fact be a great time to be investing in the euro. Whenever assets are manipulated by non-market forces, they always rebound sooner or later.

Besides high unemployment, low growth, growing socialists policiies, total disagreement between the members, and rejection of their Constitution. I am not sure what non-market forces you are referring to.

8 posted on 06/18/2005 5:10:47 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Maceman
There's no way it's going anywhere but down in the long run.

Why? And, what's the "long run"?

9 posted on 06/18/2005 5:11:06 AM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: Panerai
German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder blamed UK and Dutch obduracy for one of the EU's "gravest" crises.

Why no mention of France Herr Schroeder? Didn't they opt out at well? Acht!
10 posted on 06/18/2005 5:15:12 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: RobFromGa
"When I heard one after the other, all the new member countries, each poorer than the other, say that in the interest of reaching an agreement they would be ready to renounce some of their financial demands, I was ashamed."

I assume he was ashamed of France for refusing to allow its' agricultural subsidies to be reduced.

11 posted on 06/18/2005 5:15:41 AM PDT by Founding Father ( Republicans control the Oval Office, Senate and House, but still can't govern.)
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To: Maceman
I was being a sarcastic. But the Euro has been taking a beating so it might bounce back some. But I am bearish on the Euro for a while and enjoyed watching Soros and Buffett take a bath. I just love how their hatred toward Bush and America has costs them hundreds of millions. Of course both have made billions in America, so it is hard to understand their diarrhea of the mouth.
12 posted on 06/18/2005 5:16:17 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Panerai

I thought that everyone in the world got along with France and Germany and it is only the evil Bush Administration that is a lone ranger. Wait many the problem is France and Germany- you think?


13 posted on 06/18/2005 5:17:33 AM PDT by q_an_a
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To: Always Right

None of those that you mention are anything new. They were all true when the dollar plunged versus the euro. Why do you suppose that is?


14 posted on 06/18/2005 5:18:44 AM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: AntiGuv
Why? And, what's the "long run"?

Because their overly socialists governments and world view are going to run their economy into the ground like it has been doing for years. Government spending in Euro as a percentage of GDP is very high. Unemployment is high. Growth is low. Until Europe starts to rein in government, they are going down,

15 posted on 06/18/2005 5:18:50 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: AntiGuv
None of those that you mention are anything new. They were all true when the dollar plunged versus the euro. Why do you suppose that is?

Because too many people hated the US, but now they are thinking with their wallets.

16 posted on 06/18/2005 5:19:51 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: RobFromGa
Chirac..."arrogance of several rich countries"

Ah, the envy card.

Do not pass go. Do not collect $200.

:-)

I have a simple rule in life--I do not associate with people who play the envy card. Follow it and you too shall live long and prosper.
17 posted on 06/18/2005 5:21:18 AM PDT by cgbg (I suffer from Stockholm Syndrome--"Your papers, please. No smoking here.")
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To: Always Right

You still didn't tell me what the "long run" is in your statement. People do not invest unto perpetuity. The "long run" can be one year, five years, twenty years, forty years. The answer "whenever" works just fine for rhetoric, but not so great for investment decisions..


18 posted on 06/18/2005 5:21:49 AM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: SubMareener
Over there, over there
Send the word, send the word, over there
That the Yanks ain't coming, the Yanks ain't coming
All your constant problems we don't want to bear
So prepare, say a prayer, all you Euros should beware
No more to hover, your arses to cover
And we won't be back till the EU's over Over There

Leni

19 posted on 06/18/2005 5:22:38 AM PDT by MinuteGal (Remember, Half the People You Know are Below Average)
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To: Always Right

LOL! I see that you clearly have no concept of what you're talking about. Never mind what I said before then - I didn't mean to intrude. Carry on!


20 posted on 06/18/2005 5:23:00 AM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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