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To: flixxx

flixxx, I am sorry that I came back at you like that.

I understand the good intentions of Living Wills and Advanced Directives.

I was a big supporter of them myself about 15 years ago.

I was one of about 15 other people that testified before my state legislature in 2000 about the unintended consequences of
this act.

1)In most states if you are over 65 there is a formula for determining judgements in cases of medical malpractice for death.

It is usually a combination of factors but earning capacity is a huge chunk of it. What would you earn if you lived out the rest of your natural life.

At 65 and over, it is nothing. It doesn't matter what your life means to your family. Only what you can earn.

2)If a hospital does something less than lethal you can sue for pain and suffering, but if they kill you or let you die they come out far better.

Scenario's where I have seen this happen.

79 year old man , previously in good health, had an MI. Came out of ICU in modestly compromised , but improving condition.
Heart rate went to 160, MD was not called. He went itno pulmonary edema and died. Hospital liability 0.
Could have been converted out of SVT with a dose of Cardizem.

2) 69 year old patient 2nd post op for Prostate surgery. Doing well, no malignancy. C/o of being Short of Breath, staff put some oxygen on him.And went no further. Next check he was dead from a pulmonary embolism. Hospital liability 0.

3)Lady 72 comes in with Pneumonia, started on antibiotics, started chilling ,temp went to 104. Tylenol was given but the physician was not called. She was septic, went into septic shock, got moved to ICU in the morning but shock was so advanced that all interventions failed. Hospital liability 0.

4) 69 year old lady, in an MVA. Had a fractured femur. Was admitted and scheduled for surgery the next morning. Checked at midnight, B/p was trending down and heart rate was trending up. Physician was not called. Dead at the 4 am check. Autopsy revealed a lacerated liver. Hospital liability 0.

It is like racial bias. It's not overt, It's not blatant and out there. Staff, especially younger staff has the attitude that if you are a no code that you are comfortable with the idea of your own death.

Because of over work, because of attitude, because of ageism, hospital staff is more likely to over look subtle signs of impending crisis.

I spent 10 years working in ICU, I had a young wippersnapper nurse actually state "What are they doing in my ICU, they are a no code". I snatched her into a conference room and bawled her out.

No Code is supposed to mean no heroic measures. Increasingly it is being used to mean No Concern.

I know your heart is in the right place.

If you have a terminal illness, an Advanced Directive might be in your best interest.

If you are in good health but just getting older and there are things that you do or don't want, you are far , far better off having a very frank discussion with someone not in your immediate family and with no financial interest and preferably with extensive medical knowledge.

Sign a durable power of attorny for medical decisions only.

There are many things that can happen that are not lethal, and something like a ventilator can be a temporary bridge to recovery.


21 posted on 06/17/2005 5:28:26 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Democrats haven't had a new idea since Karl Marx.)
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To: TASMANIANRED

Thank you for your insights and tales of experience.


23 posted on 06/18/2005 3:17:53 PM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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