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How the Marine Corps Trains Leaders
FORTUNE 75 ^ | June 27, 2005 | Interviewed by Jerry Useem

Posted on 06/17/2005 7:18:18 AM PDT by Calpernia

General Peter Pace U.S. Marine Corps, vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff (nomination pending for chairman)—Washington, D.C.

When I was a second lieutenant in Vietnam, my platoon was patrolling around Hue City, and we came to a fork in the road. I called back to my company commander, "Should I go left or right?" He said, "Go left." We went a little farther, and there was another fork. I called back again: Left or right? He said, "Go right." Then I called back a third time, and he chewed me out on the radio: "You're the lieutenant. You're up there to make decisions. Figure it out." That has stayed with me all my life. When you have the responsibility to make decisions, make them.

When you have to make a decision about someone's future, or what kind of weapons system to invest in, or any other kind of businesslike decision, you should not let anybody rush you. On a battlefield, you don't have time to gather a lot of opinions. You have to assess the environment and make a decision based on your experience and training. You react instinctively. What I have learned is that if you're collaborative when you can be, it builds trust, so that when you have to decide right now, folks are more likely to trust your decision. In the Marines everybody understands that there are times when you just have to decide.

One thing the Marine Corps teaches is that it's better to be doing something than doing nothing. If you stay where you are, you're in the position where your enemy wants you to be. If you start doing something, you are changing the rules of the game.

The most effective decision may be the least predictable one. We teach this at officer training in Quantico. There's a series of decision exercises where a team leader has to accomplish some task—crossing a river, moving a large object—using only the materials provided. You think, "How are we gonna do this?" As it turns out, there are multiple ways to solve the problem. If you work together quickly—and start talking about what the possibilities are—you can come up with a solution. Those kinds of scenarios raise your heartbeat and put pressure on you among your peers and subordinates in a way that builds confidence in your ability to make decisions under pressure.

The ideas of flexibility, authority, and responsibility—those leadership terms that apply from lance corporal all the way up to general—have remained very constant in the Marines. What has changed is how much time we spend talking about it, practicing it, and significantly, the way the more senior leaders in the Corps allow themselves to be open with subordinates about where they made mistakes themselves. That makes it easier for subordinates to learn from them and to admit their own mistakes so that the organization can be better.

Some things today—cellphones and e-mail—are not healthy for growing leaders. Before cellphones, if the boss was away, the next person in line had to make a decision. It was either right or it was wrong, but you had to accept responsibility. You learned and grew from that. Now it's too easy to call for advice. Senior leaders have to start saying, "Look, if it's not dying or burning, don't call me."

The biggest lesson from Somalia for me [Pace served there from December 1992 to February 1993 and again from October 1993 to March 1994] was that we should never send our armed forces to do something unless we expect them to do it—and are willing to accept the risks and give them the resources. So as I sit here today as an advisor, anytime a military solution is being considered, it is important to lay out all the things that could go right and wrong. Then, if some things do go wrong, and they will, you are well positioned mentally and physically to complete that mission.

In Iraq, we are learning things every day. Before we even started operations, our Joint Forces Command put together a "lessons learned" team. Since then, every facet of the operation has provided lessons—targeting and what type of weapon to use on a particular target; the best ways to track friendly forces on the battlefield; how to communicate. Some of these lessons reinforced what we believed going in; some disabused us of what we thought was a good idea, but wasn't. The learning has to be shared person to person, not left in a book on a shelf. It has to stay alive.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: generalpace; jointchiefsstaff; leaders; leadership; marinecorp; marines; peterpaceusmc; usmc

1 posted on 06/17/2005 7:18:19 AM PDT by Calpernia
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To: ducks1944; Ragtime Cowgirl; Alamo-Girl; TrueBeliever9; anniegetyourgun; maestro; TEXOKIE; ...
General Peter Pace U.S. Marine Corps, vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
How the Marine Corps Trains Leaders

2 posted on 06/17/2005 7:19:40 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

"How the Marine Corps trains leaders?"

One D.I. at a time!

Semper Fi,
Kelly


3 posted on 06/17/2005 7:24:16 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: Calpernia; Mo1; Howlin; Peach; BeforeISleep; kimmie7; 4integrity; BigSkyFreeper; RandallFlagg; ...

Ping....


4 posted on 06/17/2005 7:24:35 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: Calpernia

How the 'Corps' has survived in this 'God Awful' society is beyond me, let us be thankful that they are still with us. SEMPER FI!


5 posted on 06/17/2005 7:29:13 AM PDT by Eighth Square
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To: Eighth Square
Yep!

St. John chapter 17

6 posted on 06/17/2005 7:31:21 AM PDT by maestro
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To: Calpernia
Then I called back a third time, and he chewed me out on the radio: "You're the lieutenant. You're up there to make decisions. Figure it out...."

"....ask the Platoon Sergeant!

7 posted on 06/17/2005 7:36:37 AM PDT by elbucko
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To: Calpernia
Lead......Follow.....or get out of the way......good advice.
8 posted on 06/17/2005 7:37:44 AM PDT by marmar (Even though I may look different then you...my blood runs red, white and blue.....)
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To: Calpernia

Thanks for the ping!


9 posted on 06/17/2005 7:38:31 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: elbucko

Knew that one was coming!


10 posted on 06/17/2005 7:42:31 AM PDT by Tallguy
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To: Calpernia
Here's a link to another really great book on the Corps' values - by Zell Miller.
11 posted on 06/17/2005 7:49:30 AM PDT by harpu
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To: Calpernia

Semper Fi ~ Bump!


12 posted on 06/17/2005 8:03:08 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: OXENinFLA

Thanks for the ping


13 posted on 06/17/2005 8:27:10 AM PDT by firewalk
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To: Calpernia
Good story. When I went through basic in 1965 our Army DI's used to say "the only thing worse than a bad decision is no decision at all."
14 posted on 06/17/2005 8:36:47 AM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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To: elbucko
"....ask the Platoon Sergeant!"

You got that correct, Just what I told my nephew, 2nd Lt. before he left for Iraq. LISTEN TO YOUR Sergents!!!!!
15 posted on 06/17/2005 8:37:29 AM PDT by OldSgt. (USMC, Nam Vet, HMM-165)
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To: OXENinFLA

FYI..what I remember most about the "decision exercises" are the ones that did NOT have any possible solution..IOW, they could not be done..and once that realisation dawned on us..with it came the wisdom to understand that leadership means never sacrificing your men on an impossble task, and you have to have the courage to recognize it, and state it to higher ups..


16 posted on 06/17/2005 8:41:38 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: marmar

Something the Democrats in Congress don't seem to have learned...


17 posted on 06/17/2005 8:46:11 AM PDT by RedEyeJack
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To: RedEyeJack

Sad isn't it........


18 posted on 06/17/2005 9:18:36 AM PDT by marmar (Even though I may look different then you...my blood runs red, white and blue.....)
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To: OldSgt.
LISTEN TO YOUR Sergents!!!!!

Too true. That advice goes for any endeavor. Any executive, at any level, should seek out the most experienced senior journeyman on the job for the best real analysis of a situation and the most reliable advice. Those who do become generals in the military and successful in business.

19 posted on 06/17/2005 10:17:30 AM PDT by elbucko
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