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Court rules that Holocaust survivors' lawsuit against the Vatican can proceed
Catholic News Agency ^ | Jun. 15, 2005

Posted on 06/16/2005 4:56:23 PM PDT by Jane_N

San Francisco, Jun. 15, 2005 (CNA) - A ruling this week by the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals has upheld an earlier decision that Holocaust survivors can continue their claims against the Vatican for the restitution of funds plundered from former Yugoslavia during the Second World War.

The majority of the victims of genocide in Croatia during World War II were Orthodox Christian Serbs. More than 500,000 of them were liquidated by the Croatian Ustasha, with the backing of some Catholic clerics. These funds have been referred to as the Ustasha or Croatian treasury.

According to a report by Matt Abbott, the San Francisco court denied a Vatican petition for reconsideration and a request for an extraordinary en banc hearing. It also issued an amended opinion which indicated the Italian Peace Treaty of 1947 did not preclude the lawsuit because the Vatican was not a signatory to the treaty.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: 9thcircus; balkans; catholic; croatia; holocaust; lawsuit; massmurder; ninthcircuit; planetzongo; ruling; serbia; theholysee; ustasha; ustashe; ustashi; vatican; vaticanclaim; ww2; yugoslavia
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To: Diocletian

What German Nazis and Italian fascists) had to say about ustasa animals:
http://www.srpska-mreza.com/History/ww2/u-allies.html

Children murdered in the Independent State of Croatia 1941-1945
http://www.jasenovac.info/cd/zrtve/deca-zrtve/index_en.html

Jasenovac Industry of Death: Recommended links and resources
http://www.jasenovac.info/cd/veze/index_en.html


201 posted on 06/18/2005 10:45:18 PM PDT by zagor-te-nej
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To: zagor-te-nej

I'm sorry, but your posts are off-topic.


202 posted on 06/18/2005 10:50:21 PM PDT by Diocletian
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To: Diocletian

“I still dream of torture and cries”
http://www.nezavisne.com/revija/tekst2-050418.php

Gojko Knezevic and his family were sent to Jasenovac. He was witness how his mother was killed trying to save his sister. This is what happened - when they arrived in Jasenovac, one of the ustasa tried to take his little sister from her mother. His mother, Jovanka was strong and she tried to defend her child. Then, dozen of those animals attacked poor women, snatched baby and throw her in the air -- and caught her body on the bayonet. Then they killed Jovanka - they amputate her breast.

Eventually, Gojko was sent to Jasterebarsko concentration camp run by roman-catholic nuns. There were no doctors in the camp, food was terrible and they were tortured daily. Nuns had specialty - hitting children with thin stick previously immersed in salt water or vinegar. This way it would hurt more and wounds will heal slowly.
There children were converted. Every morning, nuns would take them to church service and if some of the children did not know to cross in roman-catholic way they would bit them. His estimate is that some 80% of the children were killed there.


203 posted on 06/18/2005 10:58:12 PM PDT by zagor-te-nej
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To: zagor-te-nej

Sorry, no good. Try again.


204 posted on 06/18/2005 10:59:26 PM PDT by Diocletian
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205 posted on 06/18/2005 11:20:48 PM PDT by freepatriot32 (www.lp.org)
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To: Diocletian
Indeed, like a majority of Catholic clergy during the period, Archbishop Stepinac stood resolutely against the specifically racialist element of Nazi politics. Jews who had converted to Catholicism should not, according to this view, be killed. A forced conversion now and again, however, was another matter. And Stepinac doesn't seem to have been unduly troubled by the (locally) larger practice of massacring Orthodox Christians (or subjecting them to forced conversions). Certainly the larger geopolitical implications of taking the Nazi side in the war seem, to him, to have been a small matter compared to the vital necessity of crushing Serbian power. According to one account of the balance:
206 posted on 06/19/2005 6:31:57 AM PDT by zagor-te-nej
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To: zagor-te-nej

Sorry, but Stepinac is on his way to sainthood, and many Jews are also thankful for his actions during WW2.


207 posted on 06/19/2005 7:38:18 AM PDT by Diocletian
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To: Diocletian

He may nurture some scruples regarding Jews but killing Serbs was with OK with him, and most of the Craots. You Croats proclaimed murderous racist as Tudjman, Pavelic and Starcevic “fathers of the nation” so roman-catholic sainthood for him really makes sense. Especially given Vatican policy against Orthodox nations, Stepinac’s deeds or his stance that “Orthodox Serbs are worst plague of Europe even worse then Ottoman Turks”.

Pope John Paul II’s Legacy in the Balkans
Orthodox-Catholic Reconciliation?
http://www.serbianna.com/columns/savich/063.shtml

Centuries of Vatican push towards East come to nothing – you Muslim friends cleansed Croats from most of the Bosnia. You hate Serbs so much that you sold Europe and Christianity to jihad and you got your payment. More precisely first rate of the payment.


208 posted on 06/19/2005 12:45:18 PM PDT by zagor-te-nej
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To: Diocletian; Lion in Winter; zagor-te-nej; a freedom-loving italian
Diocletian - How do you know? What about the proof that has been presented so far? Your bigotry re: the RCC clergy's infalliability is bizarre and disturbing, to say the least. Are you also going to deny child molestations were carried out by certain members of the RCC here in the US?

Please source your incredible claims of infalliability or drop them.
209 posted on 06/20/2005 5:11:54 PM PDT by indcons (The Koran - the world's first WMD)
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Indcons:

You can't prove a negative. However, the lies on this thread are many and long in regards to the Church and WW2 Croatia, most of them taken from Communist show trials that were staged, as admitted by the Politburo member Milovan Djilas.

210 posted on 06/20/2005 6:24:54 PM PDT by Diocletian
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To: Diocletian

You are a busy one with this thread...


211 posted on 06/21/2005 1:14:09 PM PDT by ma bell ("Take me to the Brig. I want to see the "real Marines". Major General Chesty Puller, USMC)
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