Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1

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Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts?q=1&&page=1#1

 

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[cajungirl]

Lorenzo's Mother is rumored to have been impregnated by Paulus Van Sloot. The Sloots moved to Aruba 10 years ago so Lorenzo who is in early twenties had to have been conceived before The young van S was born. Maybe it was a romance prior to the marriage.

I wonder given that VS Sr. is a teacher if he met Lorenzo's mother that way. But I am so confused, did Lorenzo's Mother's husband kill himself? I think he did.

Frankly if I were him, I might have done the same thing.Good grief.

[CitizenM]

Plus the Arubans like to give criminals a heads up so they can go home wash up, get rid of evidence, talk with their lawyers, murder witnesses, call Americans cowboys, etc.

I mean criminals have stuff to do, just like us.

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That is, unless, they are like FReepers who are sitting in their jammies, un-washed, un-shaven, nibbling on left overs, and typing furiously about this case or something else. We have nothing else to do!!!! LOL.

Love your "light" humor in the midst of this whole fog!

[CitizenM]

It was posted before that Joran's father had some sort of relationship with a woman before he married his present wife. That relationship produced Lorenzo. Thus, Lorenzo is Joran's half-brother. (If that story is true.)

I think then Lorenzo's mother married, and that man is the one who committed suicide. But someone else wrote that perhaps it was really a murder. Who knows. The whole group of people sound nutso now.

[cajungirl]

http://www.sjiemfat.com/

The lawyer for young Van Sloot works at this firm. Named Antonio/Anthony Carlo.

I am going to peruse the site. He is a corporate lawyer. I love his parner's name,,Mr. Fat.

[Rippersnapper]

Rumors but not substantiated.

Ahhhh. Ok.

[CitizenM]

A corporate lawyer? Boy, their laws must really be different. A corp. lawyer defending this kid? What corporate crime did he commit????????????? Ugh. I guess they are calling in anyone with any law degree. Who next? Someone who fights for animal rights?

[Rippersnapper]

Sorry, I thought I made my initial post quite clear as to who went home early and which two were still with Natalee at the time of the witness seeing them.

[maggief]

I'm not finding any new information on Lorenzo or anyone else this morning.

I could only speculate why Lorenzo was questioned and released. One never knows if he'll be called in again.

[CitizenM]

I wonder...given their previous "tactics" if the police let Lorenzo go just like they let VDS and the two brothers go. To observe them, I believe it was said...or some such stupid statement. So, maybe they are observing/watching/tracking Lorenzo? I don't know whether to trust the word of that girl who wrote from Aruba and said Natalee was kept in Lorenzo's basement. Remember she said Nat was put there because a lot of homes in Aruba do not have basements? She seemed to go to some length to explain the situation.

I am getting sea-sick with all the ups and downs and conflicting information. I can only imagine that if I were Natalee's mother, and had a gun, I would be waiving it in the faces of a lot of people there. And I hardly ever get that angry...except when it comes to protecting my children. Like a mother lion! Grrrrr.

[Rippersnapper]

Is Lorenzo's mother still around?

[cajungirl]

Maggie,

The lawyer Antonio/Anthony Carlo is one we need to track down. He was barred frrom seeing VS because he went to see the arrested guards.

The name is either Italian or Hispanic.I can't find a thing on him. Supposedly he is in that law firm I posted but they don't have him listed.

I am curious about him and his being barred from seeng VS. Sounds suspicious and not collegial. We know lawyers hang together.

Do we know any way to look up his cases? I would love to see his client list.

The law firm does off shore financial work, trusts, etc,,,money laundering might fall under that.

[Rippersnapper]

We are sharing the same tinfoil hat. I wish it were tinfoil. But it seems to be real.

Pick a style. ;)

[No Surrender No Retreat]

Roger that. NSNR

[Rippersnapper]

I think then Lorenzo's mother married, and that man is the one who committed suicide. But someone else wrote that perhaps it was really a murder. Who knows. The whole group of people sound nutso now.

Interesting. Nutso describes it real well. Sounds like a soap opera. Another Life To Ruin.

[cajungirl]

I like the top hat in the pics. But we do need one with a wide brim, like a sombrero.

[CitizenM]

It must be the sun down there - it must bake their brains or something! Oh, I think I have to take a break and get away from all this. I am going out and dig in the dirt and take out my frustrations on the weeds in my garden. At least I know where they are. LOL

[cajungirl]

I was thinking of brushing my teeth.

[No Surrender No Retreat]

I believe that is a very correct assessment on how Aruban autorities/politcos deal with their partners in crime. This so far, has been one of the saddest excuses of an impartial pro-active criminal investigation I have had the displeasure to follow.

The Jon Benet Ramsey case, another example of aiding and abetting the criminals. I will have to say at least Cowboys know how to stay the course. NSNR

[pax_et_bonum]

You're right.

[sodpoodle]

It would be useful to know all the statements that the three stooges have made. As a parent, when my kids lied, they made sure to describe something important, around which the BIG lie was fashioned.

i.e. "no-one got out of the car" = everyone got out of the car at a crucial point in time.

"something bad happened to Natalee" = passive past tense = I/we are going to have to do something with Natalee.

"she stumbled and said 'I can get up myself' = she was begging for help when she was attacked.

Lies beget lies - and therein some truth.

just ruminating.
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