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Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
New Thread ^ | 6/16/05 | freepers

Posted on 06/16/2005 9:43:44 AM PDT by stlnative

FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts?q=1&&page=1#1

 

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923

FR Quick Ping List (copy & paste) - active posters to the thread
Andy'smom;bonfire;brigette;kcvl;maggiefluffs;No Surrender No Retreat;Palladin;Rippersnapper;TexKat;theophilusscribe

 


TOPICS: US: Alabama; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: anitavandersloot; aruba; corruption; croes; daterapedrug; deepak; ghb; holloway; joran; kidnapped; lacosanostra; mafia; missing; natalee; nataleeholloway; satish; sloot; tourism; travel; vandersloot
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To: cajungirl

OMG. Great find, cg.


1,021 posted on 06/18/2005 8:39:30 AM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: cajungirl
this story may be so much bigger, a Pandora's box may be opened by this. I think Nat's mother better be real careful here.

Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking. I get the distinct impression that the general public in Aruba is thinking, "Lady, this ain't the U.S.A. Be careful what you say around here."

1,022 posted on 06/18/2005 8:40:34 AM PDT by blub
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To: Malichi

And your point is...???


1,023 posted on 06/18/2005 8:41:50 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: texasbluebell

The link takes a long time to read but it is incredible.

And the info about Rudy Croes and his going to meeting in Turkey with a bunch of left wingers. And maybe drug related.


1,024 posted on 06/18/2005 8:41:58 AM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: sarasota

Sorry. The date of the article was March 8, 2005. Very recent.


1,025 posted on 06/18/2005 8:43:15 AM PDT by blub
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To: cajungirl

Poor little Natalee stumbled onto a very bad thing.


1,026 posted on 06/18/2005 8:47:14 AM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: texasbluebell

The Dutch kid while responsible for Nat is a small cog in this story and that is the rub.

No wonder they all look terrified. No wonder his father is scared.

A kid running wild on Aruba is so small compared to the criminal enterprise of global proportions there.

Another name to look out for is Mansur, big family, powerful, possible ties to Casa Nostra. I keep waiting for them to appear.

And Operation Wiseguy,,I am going to google it, it was the key to all the drug, mob stuff down there.

Why do I feel like an FBI agent.


1,027 posted on 06/18/2005 8:48:26 AM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: texasbluebell

My only hope is that if the Casa N is involved and she is alive, she will be returned so they can shut the door on this.

It is odd, but I have a strange faith in the CN,,they want to protect their huge business more than they want a girl dead.

If she isn't found soon, this is going to explode on them.


1,028 posted on 06/18/2005 8:51:11 AM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: cajungirl

It's looking more and more like this was planned in advance, that's for sure. Good find up there on the thread, btw.


1,029 posted on 06/18/2005 8:55:28 AM PDT by blub
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To: cajungirl

I would bet the CN would be willing to make a deal with someone. "Look, we'll give her back if we can be assured that'll be the end of it."


1,030 posted on 06/18/2005 8:57:00 AM PDT by blub
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To: sarasota

I am wearing my feelings on my cast, sorry.


1,031 posted on 06/18/2005 9:00:11 AM PDT by Malichi
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To: blub

I just found a link on operatio wiseguy and the Caruana/Cuntrera CN family, the ones in Aruba and guess what. Caruana, the big CN honcho, the one who bought up Aruba,,,he is the brother in law of Pablo Escobar!! He started out in Canada which is referred to as a lab for organized crime, and then went to Venezuela and Aruba.


1,032 posted on 06/18/2005 9:02:39 AM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: cajungirl

suspects are safer in the pokey now. aruban authorities are probably being threatened hourly.


1,033 posted on 06/18/2005 9:10:30 AM PDT by alrea (Help Wanted: New Jersey Dir. of Homeland Security; must be willing performer & handsome.)
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To: texasbluebell
Poor little Natalee stumbled onto a very bad thing.

Natalee didn't stumble onto anything. Sloot dragged her into it.

1,034 posted on 06/18/2005 9:18:29 AM PDT by Rippersnapper
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To: cajungirl
Earlier I surmised that this scenario was a possibility. See post # 978. You are doing a great job of detective work, proving my theory. Congrats for your resourcefulness, and that of others on the FR who know their way around the Net so well!

I thought from the beginning that somehow there was an entanglement with a large criminal element - either by "accident" or intentionally on the part of van der Sloot. I think it was more an accident, or some stupid ignorance of who/what he was dealing with. His actions, however serious (or trivial if he did nothing intentional) they might be in relation to Natalee's disappearance, might well be the rock that brings down the giant.

1,035 posted on 06/18/2005 9:19:08 AM PDT by CitizenM ("An excuse is worse than an lie, because an excuse is a lie hidden." Pope John Paul, II)
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To: alrea
Starting to think there is a much bigger story the Arubans are trying to keep contained. They WISH this is only about a missing high schooler.

Think what drug running, mob traffic-ing and disappearing tourists would do to the economy there. The larger play in containing the stor(ies) and keeping the focus on JVDS.

1,036 posted on 06/18/2005 9:19:28 AM PDT by Swanks
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To: cajungirl
Another name to look out for is Mansur, big family, powerful, possible ties to Casa Nostra. I keep waiting for them to appear.

There was a abig guy named Mansur on FNC last night. He is the one that reported that Sloot's father wouldn't allowed to see his son.

1,037 posted on 06/18/2005 9:20:12 AM PDT by Rippersnapper
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To: cajungirl
Remember in John Grisham's THE FIRM how the undertone of helplessness ran through most of the book. That is the same feeling I get When I see these "officials" on TV. In the movie it was best conveyed when the guy was sitting there in his backyard with the sprinkler hitting him.
1,038 posted on 06/18/2005 9:23:38 AM PDT by Malichi
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(or trivial if he did nothing intentional)
Just so I am not misunderstood - I do not consider the disappearance of Natalee trivial. OMG it is terrible.

What I meant by "trivial" in my above comment is that VDS may just have innocently taken Natalee to a party for her last night with him. Bad people there might have forced her away, or drugged her, or something...and threatened VDS if he said anything. I am not excusing him, but the possibility of him getting into a pit of vipers unknowingly could exist. A cartel of drug operations or sex traffickers could have a very strong, frightening impact on a teen who just might have been a dumb kid in this situation. Just a thought. I am not exonerating anyone, only considering other possibilities.

1,039 posted on 06/18/2005 9:26:28 AM PDT by CitizenM ("An excuse is worse than an lie, because an excuse is a lie hidden." Pope John Paul, II)
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To: cajungirl

WOW! Good job on connecting the dots from Rudy Croes to the Sicilian Mafia!

In the beginning of this investigation, there was a policeman on who emphasized that the investigative police and the Ministry of Justice are not connected in any way. That the investigators were independent of the Justice Ministry of Aruba. I wondered why he was being so emphatic about this.

Anyway, I'm glad our FBI is in place there in Aruba to oversee certain aspects of this case, with all its tortuous pathways.


1,040 posted on 06/18/2005 9:32:48 AM PDT by Palladin (God Bless America!)
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