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Losing their heads over Gitmo (Ann Coulter)
WND.com ^ | June 15, 2005 | Ann Coulter

Posted on 06/15/2005 4:58:33 PM PDT by perfect stranger

I guess Bush should have backed Katherine Harris, after all. Sen. Mel Martinez, the Senate candidate Bush backed instead of Harris, has become the first Republican to call for shutting down Guantanamo. Martinez hasn't said where the 500 or so suspected al-Qaida operatives currently at Gitmo should be transferred to, but I understand the Neverland Ranch might soon be available.

Maybe Sen. Arlen Specter – the liberal Republican Bush backed instead of conservative Pat Toomey, which still didn't help Bush in Pennsylvania – will step forward to defend the Bush administration. That Karl Rove is a genius.

Martinez explained his nonsensical call for the closing of Guantanamo by asking: "Is it serving all the purposes you thought it would serve when initially you began it, or can this be done some other way a little better?"

There are Arabs locked up at Guantanamo, no? Admittedly, not enough. (And not under what any frequent flier would describe as "harsh conditions.") Still and all, Arabs are locked up there. That is what we call a "purpose."

By becoming a focus of evil for human-rights groups, Martinez suggested, Guantanamo has become a recruiting tool for al-Qaida: "It's become an icon for bad stories," Martinez said, "and at some point you wonder the cost-benefit ratio." (I've been wondering the same thing about Mel Martinez.)

This is preposterous. NBC's "The West Wing" is an icon for bad stories; Gitmo is a place where we keep an eye on evil, dangerous people who want to kill us.

Martinez was borrowing a point from Sen. Joe Biden – which is always a dangerous gambit because you never know who said it originally. The "Biden" version was: "I think more Americans are in jeopardy as a consequence of the perception that exists worldwide with its existence than if there were no Gitmo."

So if people around the world believe that if they try to kill Americans they might go to a bad, scary place called Guantanamo, that will make them more likely to kill Americans? How about doing a cost-benefit ratio on that analysis?

Let's also pause to ponder the image of the middle-of-the-road, "centrist" jihadist who could be "recruited" to jihad by reports about abuse at Guantanamo. You know – the kind of guy who just watches al-Jazeera for the sports and hits the "mute" button whenever they start in about the Jews again, already.

Liberals want us to believe such a person exists and that he is perusing newspaper articles about Guantanamo trying to decide whether to finish his coffee and head off to work or to place a backpack filled with dynamite near a preschool.

Note to liberals: That doesn't happen.

What happens is this: There are thousands of Muslim extremists literally dying to slaughter Americans, and only three proven ways to stop them: (1) Kill them (the recommended method), (2) capture them and keep them locked up, or (3) convince them that their cause is lost. Guantanamo is useless for No. 1, but really pulls ahead on No. 2 and No. 3 (i.e., a "purpose").

Let's just hope aspiring jihadists are not reading past the headlines and discovering that what Amnesty International means by "the gulag of our time" is: No Twinkie rewards for detainees!

That's not a joke. As described in infuriating detail by Heather MacDonald in the Winter, 2005, City Journal, interrogators at Guantanamo are not allowed to:

yell at the detainees, except in extreme circumstances and only after alerting Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld – and never in the ears;

serve the detainees cold meals, except in extreme circumstances;

poke the detainees in the chest or engage in "light pushing" without careful monitoring and approval from the commander of the U.S. Southern Central Command in Miami;

reward detainees (for example, for not throwing feces at the guards that day) with a Twinkie or a McDonald's Filet-O-Fish sandwich in the absence of express approval from the secretary of defense. (I suppose it goes without saying, "supersizing" their order is strictly forbidden under any circumstances.)

Without careful monitoring, interrogators aren't even allowed to subject the detainees to temperature changes, unpleasant odors or sleep cycle disruptions. But on the bright side, they are allowed to play Christina Aguilera music and feed the savages the same food our soldiers eat rather than their usual orange-glazed chicken. That isn't sarcasm; these are the rules.

No cold meals, sleep deprivation or uncomfortable positions? Obviously, what we need to do is get the U.S. Army to serve drinks on commercial airlines and get the airlines to start supervising the detainees in Guantanamo.

American soldiers make do with C-rations. Dinner on an America West flight from New York to Las Vegas consists of one small bag of peanuts. Meanwhile, one recent menu for suspected terrorists at Guantanamo consisted of orange-glazed chicken, fresh fruit crepe, steamed peas and mushrooms, and rice pilaf. Sounds like the sort of thing you'd get at Windows on the World – if it still existed.


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1 posted on 06/15/2005 4:58:34 PM PDT by perfect stranger
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2 posted on 06/15/2005 4:59:42 PM PDT by perfect stranger
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To: perfect stranger

That closing line is a real stinger.


3 posted on 06/15/2005 5:01:43 PM PDT by GraceCoolidge
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To: perfect stranger
No matter if at Gitmo or some other "camp", no body will ever be happy. If we put these a**wipes in the Ritz Carlton, the hate America crowd and Amnesty International would still find something to complain about. At the same times the Dems would be complaining about the cost.

Its time to tell all the whiners to STFU and all the Dems to F-off.

4 posted on 06/15/2005 5:05:19 PM PDT by mountn man (Everyone brings joy into a room. Some when they enter. Others when they leave)
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To: perfect stranger
Martinez was borrowing a point from Sen. Joe Biden – which is always a dangerous gambit because you never know who said it originally.

ZING!

5 posted on 06/15/2005 5:06:03 PM PDT by King Prout (I'd say I missed ya, but that'd be untrue... I NEVER MISS)
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To: GraceCoolidge

I am really getting sick of hearing about so called abuse at Gitmo. We have children in America who are eating less than these terrorist pigs. I say stuff pork down there throats.


6 posted on 06/15/2005 5:06:36 PM PDT by TGOGary (I would blow my brains out before ever wearing a blue beret.)
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To: perfect stranger

So, I came across this painting on a sort of stupid site...But I figured, hey, what the heck, she still looks good, and all ya'all men have probably been hoping for a black leather picture, anyway. Stop drooling, you'll short out your keyboards. ;-)

7 posted on 06/15/2005 5:06:38 PM PDT by LongElegantLegs ("Se habla, MoFo!")
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bump


8 posted on 06/15/2005 5:08:31 PM PDT by Enterprise (Coming soon from Newsweek: "Fallujah - we had to destroy it in order to save it.")
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To: perfect stranger

Anne at the top of her form. Too much good stuff to even select a favorite.


9 posted on 06/15/2005 5:09:20 PM PDT by Bahbah (Something wicked this way comes)
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To: TGOGary

I think the most eye-opening article was Michelle Malkin's recent piece on Gitmo. I don't believe many people realize the extraordinary lengths to which the military is going to accomodate inmates' religious practices, for example. It is well past the point of absurdity.


10 posted on 06/15/2005 5:10:55 PM PDT by GraceCoolidge
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No way are we worthy. No way.


11 posted on 06/15/2005 5:11:55 PM PDT by speedy
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To: perfect stranger
Sounds like the sort of thing you'd get at Windows on the World – if it still existed.

Oh, that's a devastating closing sentence. I remember reading some telephone transcripts in the NY Times, of the calls placed by the increasingly worried staffers at Window on the World while their building burned and weakened underneath them. There was nothing anyone could do to help them.

12 posted on 06/15/2005 5:13:36 PM PDT by 68skylark
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To: LongElegantLegs

I'm not sure if that portrait is supposed to be insulting or flattering -- it's a little of both.


13 posted on 06/15/2005 5:15:16 PM PDT by 68skylark
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To: speedy

Ann Coulter can say stuff I wish I could.


14 posted on 06/15/2005 5:15:20 PM PDT by TSchmereL (slow down)
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To: perfect stranger

Whats the chances of puting Dick "Dirtbag" Durbin in "GITMO" ?


Forever !


15 posted on 06/15/2005 5:15:54 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK (secus acutulus exspiro ab Acheron bipes actio absol ab Acheron supplico)
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To: GraceCoolidge

There is a young man who serves in the Corps. whose parents live down the street. Some of the stories he told me were absurd. A Marine cannot pray to Jesus where a prisoner can here him. Soldier's may not wear a cross in any form, even under their uniform. The list just goes on and on. I say we start beating them with drumsticks till they break.


16 posted on 06/15/2005 5:18:11 PM PDT by TGOGary (I would blow my brains out before ever wearing a blue beret.)
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To: perfect stranger

Yes, let's send the ragheads over to Florida for the good Senator to deal with. Other than that, I have a suggestion about what to do with those scumbags after closing Gitmo, but it would not be appropriate to publish it were on the FR. Something to do with shark feeding........


17 posted on 06/15/2005 5:20:20 PM PDT by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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To: TSchmereL

Yep. And she does it constantly. Next to Bush himself, I think she infuriates the Left more than any other individual. Her unapologetic mocking drives them crazy.


18 posted on 06/15/2005 5:21:59 PM PDT by speedy
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To: GraceCoolidge
That closing line is a real stinger.

She certainly knows how to throw it back in their faces doesn't she...

19 posted on 06/15/2005 5:22:05 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: perfect stranger
Windows on the World

I miss that place. Great food, great view!

20 posted on 06/15/2005 5:24:10 PM PDT by upchuck (If our nation be destroyed, it would be from the judiciary." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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