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Guantanamo inmates can be held 'in perpetuity'
yahoo.com ^ | June 15, 2005 | Reuters

Posted on 06/15/2005 3:35:00 PM PDT by AgThorn

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To: Ron in Acreage
We can't help it if they tried to escape by jumping overboard in the dark of night.

Yeah, those decks can be very slippery, can't they?

21 posted on 06/15/2005 3:53:50 PM PDT by softwarecreator (Facts are to liberals as holy water is to vampires)
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To: Dark Skies

We should allow them to live in that same great state of euphoria that Terri Schiavo did. The autopsy said she didn't starve to death. She died of euphoria.


22 posted on 06/15/2005 3:54:01 PM PDT by Ron in Acreage (It's the borders stupid! (ours, not theirs!))
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To: AgThorn

Ha!, Biden and Leahy think Gitmo is bad for terrorists. I'm actually looking forward to the day we can incarcerate in perpetuity traitors who happen to be serving in either house of congress, or who are working in the MSM. I'm sure the day is coming. We can't win the war until it does.


23 posted on 06/15/2005 3:54:14 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: AgThorn
Murderers traditionally in liberal states get life in prison in many states the prisons are a hell of a lot tougher than Gitmo...and not on a tropical beach.

Last I heard all these Moozelum terrorists were going to commit Holy Suicide?

Guess they really must be enjoying their stay among the infidels ..but then who wants to go back to snowy winters in A-Stan when you can winter in Gitmo and eyeball the pretty infidel female attendants

24 posted on 06/15/2005 3:55:15 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Taglines often reveal a lot about the inner person...)
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To: AgThorn
Maybe they should ask the former residents of the "Hanoi Hilton" about legal rights of detainees. Only they weren't detainees they were legitimate POWs under the GHC and they WERE tortured methodically.

Any Freeper Veteran here can tell the Sens that what we went through at the Draft induction center and in basic training was far-far worse than what the "detainees" at Club Cuba's Gourmand Gitmo Cafe are undergoing.
25 posted on 06/15/2005 3:56:45 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: AgThorn

Agreed.


26 posted on 06/15/2005 3:57:00 PM PDT by TheDon (Euthanasia is an atrocity.)
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To: joesnuffy

Fox showed them playing soccer today in beautiful tropical beaches of cuba. Here in south florida a view like that starts at about $2million.


27 posted on 06/15/2005 3:58:07 PM PDT by Ron in Acreage (It's the borders stupid! (ours, not theirs!))
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To: AgThorn
Bush administration said the inmates could be jailed there "in perpetuity."

Inmates.

Inmates? How about caged murderous beasts.

Oh, btw, the Geneva Accords don't apply either.


28 posted on 06/15/2005 3:59:42 PM PDT by glock rocks ( There are not enough liberals in Utah to bother to appease. - Warren Keuffel)
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To: SandRat

Hey, if we can hold them in perpetuity, what would be the best way?

Freezing?
Freeze drying?
Cryogenics?
Maybe just as DNA?
Still I think the idea of their organs continuing to live
and save infidel lives as the best option.

It would be difficult for a muslim to contemplate being,
undead.


29 posted on 06/15/2005 4:01:11 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Thud
It's my understanding that a very large number of these are known terrorists captured in Iraq, and a smaller number from Afghanistan.

We're probably closer to having a functional judicial system in Iraq than in Afghanistan, and the ideal solution would be to have those prisoners tried in Iraq and for them to administer the justice.

But I think we need the constitution in place there and a better judiciary in place with complete groundrules. That means keeping the status quo at Gitmo for now.

30 posted on 06/15/2005 4:02:19 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: AgThorn

If we had dealt with these folks the old fashioned way - on the field of battle - there wouldn't be a need for Gitmo in the first place.

But accepting the need for a facility for extracting intelligence from captures combatants who are not covered byt the Geneva COnventions, I'd suggest a top secret facility at an extremely remote location with virtually NO chance of accidental discovery, and there individuals could be treated with all the civility they deserve for as long or short a time as may be required.


31 posted on 06/15/2005 4:03:02 PM PDT by John Valentine
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To: tet68

Come to think of it, ARE there any Islamic organ donors?


32 posted on 06/15/2005 4:03:47 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: softwarecreator
"Yeah, those decks can be very slippery, can't they?"

Especially when you've been chumming for sharks for a couple hours...

33 posted on 06/15/2005 4:03:49 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: Txsleuth; Howlin

Are you watching Hardball??


34 posted on 06/15/2005 4:04:14 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: Dark Skies; Dog Gone; Dark Wing
No. They have value by the manner of their passing, for interrogation, behavior modification, etc.

They may be summarily executed. While a trial is generally appropriate, it is not necessary for unlawful combatants whose status as such is obvious. As a practical matter a secret military tribunal holding a hearing which the prisoner(s) neither participate in or are aware of is probably appropriate. The issue determined at the hearing can and should be whether the prisoner(s) are more useful dead than alive. That would satisfy those portions of the Geneva Convention we signed, subject to exceptions noted by the Senate at the time, as opposed to the GC articles we didn't sign.

Then we should wait for an appropriate opportunity to execute them. It need not be a formal hanging. As an example of behavior modification, set it up so that one of them is provoked to do something he shouldn't while other prisoners are watching, such as throwing s*** or urine at a guard. Then shoot him on the spot, while the other prisoners watch. That would certainly have a deterrent effect on similar misconduct. They won't know that we've already decided to kill him.

Interrogation purposes - loudly tell the dude, in the presence of other prisoners, that this is his last chance to talk. Shoot him in front of the other prisoners when he doesn't talk. They won't know that we've already decided to kill him.

Or slit the throats of 5-6 of them, or whatever number is deemed effective, in front of another prisoner we're trying to impress. Some of these guys are really impressed by throat-slitting.

If one of them has a particular fear of drowning, or being eaten by sharks, take him on a boat ride with a bunch of these guys, tie them all up in chains with weights attached, do a phony random number means of determining who dies first but have your guy be last, or in the middle, demand that they talk and start throwing them overboard when they refuse. If your guy talks, he lives. If he doesn't, he walks the plank right there too.

Be cold-blooded about it. Once these guys are no longer useful alive, get some use from their executions. Use those to impress the ones you haven't decided to kill yet.

35 posted on 06/15/2005 4:04:57 PM PDT by Thud
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Especially when you've been chumming for sharks for a couple hours...

Yeah, that's what I heard, but that could be just a silly rumor, which cannot be proven in court.  =)

36 posted on 06/15/2005 4:06:13 PM PDT by softwarecreator (Facts are to liberals as holy water is to vampires)
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To: Mo1

What's going on??


37 posted on 06/15/2005 4:06:22 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: AgThorn
"Critics have decried the indefinite detention of Guantanamo prisoners, whom the United States has denied rights accorded under the Geneva Conventions to prisoners of war."

If they aren't captured wearing recognized military uniforms, fighting for a recognized beligerent nation, then the Geneva Convention gives them *no* rights. Ever.

They can be shot on sight as spies or sabotuers, legally. Anything less is American charity.

38 posted on 06/15/2005 4:08:07 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Mo1

Unfortunately, yes---

It didn't take long for ole Lindsay to become a Hardball favorite, did it...

Chrissy always gets a REpublican that will blame Bush for something...!


39 posted on 06/15/2005 4:08:18 PM PDT by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice)
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To: AgThorn

Look, they want to be martyrs, we want them to be martyrs. What's the problem?


40 posted on 06/15/2005 4:08:30 PM PDT by Spok
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