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Posted on 06/15/2005 11:28:49 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback
You see them at night in big cities: men dressed up as women, complete with makeup, jewelry, and high heels. Despite their best efforts, it’s not a pretty sight. Nor is the sight of men who take a more drastic step: undergoing so-called sex-reassignment surgery.
When these surgeries were first performed at Johns Hopkins University in the early seventies, one psychiatrist—Paul McHugh—started asking questions about the wisdom of this. After all, the outcomes were not women, but grotesque caricatures of them.
When McHugh became psychiatrist-in-chief in 1975, he decided to test the claim that men who underwent sex-change surgery were psychologically better off. He also wanted to study the outcomes of sex-reassignment surgeries performed on baby boys with ambiguous genitals.
So McHugh encouraged the research of a colleague, psychiatrist Jon Meyer, who was following up men who received sex-change operations. Meyer found that most of the patients he located did not regret their surgery. But in every other respect, McHugh writes, “they were little changed in their psychological condition. They had much the same problems with relationships, work, and emotions as before [the surgery].”
“I concluded,” he wrote, “that Hopkins was fundamentally cooperating with a mental illness.” Wouldn’t it be better, he thought, to concentrate of fixing their minds instead of taking the far more drastic step of re-arranging their genitals? Thanks to the research of Meyer and others, it became possible to do just that—to make sense of the mental disorders that were driving the request for the surgeries.
McHugh then turned to the practice of sex-reassignment surgery for baby boys with ambiguous genitals. For years doctors had told parents that that their child’s sexual identity would conform to environmental conditioning: They would happily grow up as girls.
But a study found exactly the opposite. These re-engineered boys endured “prolonged distress and misery.” When they discovered their true genetic heritage, most of them began to live as males.
Given that there’s no evidence that sex reassignment surgery helps either adults or children, why did doctors recommend it in the first place? The answer is that psychiatrists were enamored of the feminist theory that sexual identity was determined, not by biology, but by cultural conditioning. Psychiatrists went along with this, despite the fact that animal research had long shown that male sexual behavior is directly derived from exposure to testosterone in utero. And so, today, the transgendered movement is firmly protected by rigid codes of political correctness. You’re a “bigot” if you say that a person is made a certain way and can’t change his gender.
Well, thanks to this research, Johns Hopkins no longer performs sex-reassignment surgeries. But trendy ideologies are being used to argue for a host of feminist causes—like women in combat. When you hear them, tell people about the psychiatrist who took on the ideologies and proved that gender isn’t a preference or a choice. These psychiatrists found out, indeed, that human nature can’t be manipulated, that the Bible was right all along: We are made male and female in His image.
Many people treat this as a sin/perversion, including many people who are being extraordinarily hypocritical by doing so. What I would say is that this is a very real condition which, because of egregious sin and foolishness in the academic ranks, is being treated in a way that doesn't make sense.
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I like what Colson has to say on homosexuality. I once heard either him or Dobson say on a TV interview once that homosexuality was the result of indulged "gender confusion" at an early age. That really clicked with me. I wondered why in all of the classes we had to take that discussed homosexuality in middle school, high school, and college, nobody had even brought up the possibility that gender confusion could be a cause.
"After all, the outcomes were not women, but grotesque caricatures of them."
This tragic illness is compounded by politically motivated fools who tell people they shoud indulge their self-destructive impulses. More victims of the 'compassionate' left.
Rudy Giuliani dresses in drag as JFK/RFK mistress Marilyn Monroe
Good point. Ironically, it can apply to individuals who went through plastic surgery to improve their looks.
Physically, they may have changed , but the pain of being abused because of the way they looked (fat, ugly, etc) could remain, perhaps changed to rage at why they were hurt
"Girls thinking they are boys so they end up liking girls?"
Something to that effect. More like guys wanting to be girls so they end up liking boys. That might explain why there's a much higher incidence of homosexuality among children that grew up in single parent households. Ru Paul grew up with his mother and 7 sisters... being female was all he ever knew really, which explains his later activity. That's just meant to be an example.
But, don't many of our sins involve brain chemistry? After all, innate male aggression leads to a lot of sin (also to a lot of wonderful accomplishments) just as the innate female desire to have and nurture children leads to a lot of sin (also a lot of children!) ;) The difference is that the kind of disorder we're talking about here doesn't seem to have any possible potential positive results. That's the only difference, though-- the connection with brain chemistry or biology or whatever is the same as all of our natural inclinations.
I am very sorry for those who have these sorts of disorders, and hope very much that we can find ways to help them. But to argue that because it is a biochemical problem it somehow stands in a less culpable moral category is just wrong. Testosterene and estrogen are both biochemical phenomena, and they both have the same potential to give rise to a world of sin. Ditto the biochemical condition that causes some people to metabolize alcohol differently, such that they never have a hangover. It doesn't make it morally ok to be a drunk.
Again, I feel only compassion for these folks, but the answer for all of us sinners, not just the ordinary, garden-variety type, but also the exotics, is God. He knows what each of us is dealing with and will eventually judge us accordingly-- our job, meanwhile is to love each other as He loved us. Some among us were put here to make our job tougher-- and we will be measured according to how well we do.
"Why is it more like that? It doesn't work the other way around?"
No you misunderstood what I meant. You said something to the effect of "girls think theyre boys?", and I said "more like boys who want to be girls"... could also be "more like girls who want to be boys" if you prefer.
But you're a'bigot' if say that homosexual is NOT made a certain way, and can change his preference.
"Why are some kids confused about their gender identity while others who grow up in similar circumstances are not?"
Their circumstances might not be as similar as you assume. There's also a high correlation between homosexuality and having been sexually abused at a young age.
At the risk of being way too personal for such a public forum, I can personally relate to that story. I [b]used[/b] to be transgendered. Luckily for me, the transgender rights movement was not as advanced as the gay rights movement and I never got myself to believe that my feelings were normal or proper, even when I (secretly and once with one girlfriend) indulged them.
I think that deep down in the hearts of men we are as wild as lions or stallions. There is a real pecking order and the dominant males get better access to the females. E.g. women go for the a**holes instead of the nice guys. They are more dominant. Some guys are afraid of this competition and find reasons to opt out. In my case it was being transgendered, in other cases it is being gay. In other cases still it is simply being asexual.
I never thought I would get past being transgendered but I did. I was a geeky kid but I through myself into sports as an adult and found that I was actually pretty good at them. I took a lot of risks without fear. Ultimately I learned to take those same risks with my social life as I did with my athletic life and those transgendered pathways of my brain just withered up and died.
But you're a 'bigot' if you say that homosexual is NOT made a certain way, and can change his preference.
Does correlation mean cause?
My pain at being abused by my contemporaries for being skinny, clumsy and socially inept did not go away when I became imposing, relatively well-coordinated and socially able. It went away (as much as something can while you still remember it) when I forgave my tormentors.
Where did you go to school, and why was this being discussed at that impressionable age?
I know 2 trans-sexuals, both of whom had something called Klinefelter's Syndrome, having a diagnosed and confirmed XXY gene pattern, as opposed to a normal XX female or XY male.
In these rare cases, you really DO get a male-oriented nervous system in a female body, or vice-versa.
This is pretty much the ONLY real medical reason for a sex-reassignment solution. . .
Where did you go to school"
Suburban New York
"and why was this being discussed at that impressionable age?"
That's the million dollar question. I think there probably is an agenda to make homosexuality acceptable.
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