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Breaking the Piggy Bank: How Illegal Immigration is Sending Schools Into the Red
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Posted on 06/14/2005 10:25:35 PM PDT by Happy2BMe

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The "Dumbing-Down" of America takes on new meaning . .
1 posted on 06/14/2005 10:25:36 PM PDT by Happy2BMe
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To: Happy2BMe
Financially the schools don't give a squat because the financing of educating these illegals mostly goes to the teacher's union. They get to grow their ranks, political bank accounts and power by having to educate illegals.

The good normal students at school do suffer illegals bringing down the class as well.

There needs to be a Constitutional change if need be that says we don't educate illegals unless they can pay, we don't give them birth certificates or any social benefits.
2 posted on 06/14/2005 10:29:28 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A. Pole; Reagan Man; Reaganwuzthebest; Pro-Bush; JohnHuang2; keri; international american; ...
Do want the BAD NEWS first or the BAD NEWS first?

(Massive cuts in spending (+) Massive illegal alien invasion in public schools = Massive Illiteracy Rates)

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With states straining under gaping budget shortfalls, public schools throughout the country are facing some of the most significant decreases in state education funding in decades.

In some states, drastic cuts mean lay-offs for teachers, larger class sizes, fewer textbooks, and eliminating sports, language programs, and after-school activities.

Nearly two-thirds of the states have cut back or proposed reductions in support for childcare and early childhood programs. Some are even shortening the school week from five days to four.


3 posted on 06/14/2005 10:29:43 PM PDT by Happy2BMe ("Viva La Migra" - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: A CA Guy
"There needs to be a Constitutional change if need be that says we don't educate illegals unless they can pay, we don't give them birth certificates or any social benefits."

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America's Anchor Baby Syndrome

The UnConstitutionality of Citizenship by Birth to Non-Americans

4 posted on 06/14/2005 10:31:59 PM PDT by Happy2BMe ("Viva La Migra" - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: Happy2BMe

Whoa! I checked out the stats on my neighborhood public elementary school: 76% of students qualify for free or low-cost lunches and 55% of students are in ESL classes.

My daughter's going to private school!


5 posted on 06/14/2005 10:33:11 PM PDT by Calico Cat (the simplest solution is usually the correct one)
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To: Happy2BMe
Bump! My brother got his pink slip as a 6th grade school teacher - class size going back up to nearly 40 students - this is in Salinas, CA. ...Hmmm. wonder why?
6 posted on 06/14/2005 10:35:29 PM PDT by Pro-Bush (Can't afford Medical care? Thank an illegal alien.)
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To: Pro-Bush
"Hmmm. wonder why?"

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Your answer sir lies in #4.

7 posted on 06/14/2005 10:37:51 PM PDT by Happy2BMe ("Viva La Migra" - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: Happy2BMe

Those who can't read are bad people, yes- like our grand parents, but please don't hesitate to steal more of my paycheck to be accounted and spent as the teachers' unions see fit.

Sure, I trust their word if they say they need my money. Just take it - it's not really mine!


8 posted on 06/14/2005 10:38:22 PM PDT by SteveMcKing (What happens in Vegas -- stays on your record.)
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To: Happy2BMe

This illustrates that there's a big difference in the cost of illegal aliens depending upon which state you're in. My state is near the bottom, thankfully so my property taxes don't subsidize many children of illegal aliens.


9 posted on 06/14/2005 10:39:58 PM PDT by Altair333 (Stop illegal immigration: George Allen in 2008)
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To: Happy2BMe

Effectively dumbing down America.


10 posted on 06/14/2005 10:42:36 PM PDT by B4Ranch ( Report every illegal alien that you meet. Call 866-347-2423, Employers use 888-464-4218)
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To: Calico Cat
My daughter's going to private school!

So is my grandson, and it's not cheap. People who are paying for private school shouldn't have to pay for public schools too, especially here in California where a huge percentage of the students are illegal aliens. Illegal aliens get everything free here. We have to obey the laws and pay the taxes, but they don't.

11 posted on 06/14/2005 10:47:10 PM PDT by janetgreen
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Note: While we are fully supportive of the fact that we have traditionally been a country of immigrants that have gladly incorporated themselves into the melting pot of American culture, we decry the fact that we are being invaded by those who do not respect our laws, our culture, our language nor our heritage.

We also decry the way our government is aiding and abetting this invasion of our country by not protecting our borders and call for it to enforce our immigration laws.

We applaud those in Congress who are working to effect meaningful immigration reform and protect us from the influx of aliens, not just from Mexico, but from all nations of the world including those who have pledged their lives to killing as many of us as possible.

One question that we must also consider is the high cost to us of doing nothing.

12 posted on 06/14/2005 10:53:49 PM PDT by Happy2BMe ("Viva La Migra" - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: Happy2BMe

Ohio spends 183 million or about 1/4 that of either Mass or WA even though Ohio has twice the population.

Ohio has very few immigrants or illegals. Ohio is 85% white. Ohio is 49th in job creation (Michigan is last) and has an unemployment rate of 6.3%.

One in 6 Ohioans are on medicaid compared to 1 in 10 nationally.

My point in this is that if you eliminate immigration, you still may not get paradise.

I will add that is Ohio doing badly because there is no immigration or is there no immigration because Ohio is doing badly ? Further, there may be zero correlation between doing badly and immigration.

Finally, I skimmed all the numbers in this article and nothing seems out of line. The article makes a good case for reducing immigration.


13 posted on 06/14/2005 11:06:15 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: Altair333
This illustrates that there's a big difference in the cost of illegal aliens depending upon which state you're in.

Ohio is a populous state with very few immigrants as shown on the table.

14 posted on 06/14/2005 11:08:48 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: staytrue
"The article makes a good case for reducing immigration."

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Your common sense has not left you.

15 posted on 06/14/2005 11:09:53 PM PDT by Happy2BMe ("Viva La Migra" - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: Happy2BMe

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16 posted on 06/14/2005 11:12:21 PM PDT by The_Macallan
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To: BigSkyFreeper; WKB; bourbon; wardaddy

HA! BSF - Mississippi has fewer than your state.

A grateful that Mississippi is near the bottom of this list ping.


17 posted on 06/14/2005 11:15:50 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: Happy2BMe

Common sense tells me.

1. Immigration from Mexico is too large.
2. Some type of guest worker program is needed where these workers can be screened for disease and terrorism links.
3. Some Immigration is good. Too much is bad.
4. Fixing immigration will not solve all the nations problems but is just one of many things that need improvement.


18 posted on 06/14/2005 11:16:08 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: onyx
A grateful that Mississippi is near the bottom of this list ping

And Mississippi is not doing well economically or scholastically either. However, this may or may not be related to lack of immigration. We still have the question, does MS do badly because of no immigration or is there no immigration because MS is doing badly.

19 posted on 06/14/2005 11:18:54 PM PDT by staytrue
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No one knows how many illegals (Mexicans plus many other Nationalitys) there are in the U.S... How could they.?. Numbers this seemingly accurate are an estimation.. no doubt a really low estimate.. Many illegals mask legals with some kind of I.D.. Only stands to reason most illegals don't want to be counted.. and aren't..


20 posted on 06/14/2005 11:20:52 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been ok'ed me to included some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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