Apple's Jobs Tells Graduates About Dropout

The Associated Press | Monday, June 13, 2005 | By JUSTIN M. NORTON

[Freedom of Speech Wins]

Some of these Stanford intellectuals even have to show up Steve jobs. How clever. I am sure it was a meaningful protest. Some garbage dump somewhere may have a few less computer parts and a few more of something else as a result.

[Hodar]

Most people dont even use their degrees, it is more a measure used for salary calcualtion and to separate the rice from the husk.

Absolutely correct, and rightly so. No one, and I do mean no one can force their kid to earn a degree (especially an engineering degree). The degree means that the kid has 'learned to learn' and is not a quiter.

In my field, I don't expect a 'fresh out' to begin to earn their salary for nearly a year on the job. That means, with salary, benefits, vacation, 401K, sick leave, ect .... I'm investing about $100K on every fresh-out that I hire. I don't want the person to have a bad day, and throw up their hands and leave; I want a person who will persevere, who will learn and grow. Statistically speaking, I'm more likely to find those traits in a college graduate.

[mcg1969]

I don't think the environmental group is Stanford affiliated.

[AZLiberty]

He said his real education started when he "dropped in" on whatever classes interested him _ including calligraphy.

Some read this as him sitting in on classes without paying. If this is true, his attitude toward getting free "bits" has changed dramatically.

[familyop]

Yes, some corporations that turn undergrad program dropouts away from software development jobs may soon be unable to compete. Getting a degree is a small task in comparison to learning to efficiently write good code. For the most part for most people, the two are separate endeavors.

[antiRepublicrat]

So, let's all tell these people how bad they are for dropping out; I dare say the least of them have exceeded the best of us.

Richard Branson was also a dropout.

[antiRepublicrat]

Before the ceremony, a plane rented by the Computer TakeBack Campaign, an environmental group, flew over the stadium with a banner that read: "Steve, don't be a mini player _ recycle all e-waste."

Do these people realize how much pollution a private plane puts out? And how much of that plane will be recycled when the airframe hits its end-of-life?

[HAL9000]

Transcript of Jobs' commencement speech

[Swordmaker]

Do these people realize how much pollution a private plane puts out? And how much of that plane will be recycled when the airframe hits its end-of-life?

"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds" ... Ralph Waldo Emerson.

I would rephrase that to "Little consistency is the hobgoblin of foolish minds" to describe the enviro-wackos.