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Overreach Over Child Molesters (A Liberal View Point)
Christian Science Monitor ^
| June 14, 2005
| Editorial
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:30:51 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: Graybeard58
We have an RSO who lives about a mile away. I'll be interested to see if he has decorations out and porch lights on this coming October 31 when I toddle around the neighborhood with my then-21-month-old boy.
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posted on
06/13/2005 4:34:07 PM PDT
by
mvpel
(Michael Pelletier)
To: Graybeard58
The recidivism of DEAD child molesters is 0%.
It's not where they live that worries me- it's THAT they live after conviction.
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posted on
06/13/2005 4:34:49 PM PDT
by
ClearBlueSky
(Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
To: Graybeard58
An extensive study by the Department of Justice published in 2003 shows a recidivism rate for child molesters of just 3.3 percent in the first three years I read judicial stats and that number is too low. It's somewhere 20-35% in the first three years, climbing to a lifetime probability of about 50%. (The numbers vary by location, definition of recidivism, etc., but a "meta-study" of some 60-odd other studies done for the WA state legislature about '98 came to that result.)
To: Graybeard58
Still, instead of trying to keep tabs on every released offender, governments should target funds, personnel, and expertise to parolees in the high-risk group, monitoring them closely and working to rehabilitate themThis is one of my favorite pieces of liberal doublespeak. Homosexuals are "born that way," they can't help it, ad infinitum, ad nauseum. Why should child molesters be any different? Applying the liberal standard on homosexuals to child molesters, we should have no more hope that a child molester will suddenly stop wanting to molest children than that a homosexual will want to stop his buggery.
Of course, liberals are hypocrites by nature.
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posted on
06/13/2005 4:37:31 PM PDT
by
Terabitten
(Illegal aliens create "Representation without Taxation.")
To: Clint Williams
Oops "child molesters." The numbers I saw were for all sex offenders...
To: Graybeard58
It's also important to remember that the rate of a repeat offense by a convicted child molester is low. "Sex offenders as a group have a relatively low recidivism rate. In fact, they have a lower recidivism rate than most other offenders," says John Q. La Fond, author of a new book, "Preventing Sexual Violence." This goes against everything I have ever heard about sex offences..
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posted on
06/13/2005 4:39:52 PM PDT
by
cardinal4
(Extraordinary Circumstances- proving PT Barnum was right..)
To: Graybeard58
In the pioneer days, if a man molested children or women,
the local men in the community would take him out into the
woods and have a "Come to Jesus" meeting with him
He might have survive the night
To: cardinal4
It's also important to remember that the rate of a repeat offense by a convicted child molester is low. I thought it sounded off, too. Unless the key word is "convicted" -- they do time and see the light (or at least don't want to see inside again)? Too many stories about repeat, repeat, repeat, etc. offenses before some are finally caught and convicted.
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posted on
06/13/2005 4:44:46 PM PDT
by
maryz
To: Clint Williams
Oops "child molesters." The numbers I saw were for all sex offenders.. In my county (Tazewell, Illinois) most offenders listed are child molesters.
It lists their offences by age groups of the victims. (13-16) (Under 13) etc.
Possession of child porn lists the victims as under 13.
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posted on
06/13/2005 4:46:35 PM PDT
by
Graybeard58
(Remember and pray for Spec.4 Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
To: mvpel
It will interesting to see you CARRYING that boy. A mile is a looooong way for those tiny legs.
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posted on
06/13/2005 4:47:32 PM PDT
by
Blood of Tyrants
(G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
To: ClearBlueSky
The recidivism of DEAD child molesters is 0%. It's not where they live that worries me- it's THAT they live after conviction.
You are so right. Personally, I think Megan's Law is the single most asinine piece of legislation ever conceived.
We, the legislature, believe that there is an enormous likelihood that this individual will kidnap, rape and kill your child. We could keep him locked up forever or we could execute him to see to it that he never commits such an act again. Instead we figured we'd let you know that he's living next door so that you can live in constant fear and anxiety until your child turns up dead.
If you need to to satellite monitor somebody you have no business letting him out of prison.
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posted on
06/13/2005 4:50:35 PM PDT
by
Ragnorak
To: Graybeard58
"It's also important to remember that the rate of a repeat offense by a convicted child molester is low."
"very low"....well that ain't ZERO is it? People seem to forget who the victims are here. Helpless innocent children. I'm sure being molested as a child is enough to seriously mess anyone up for life as opposed to being an adult and the victim of a theft say.
To: Graybeard58
What concerns me most is Whacko Jacko, aka, Chester the Acquitted Molester, now has carte blanche to behave any way he chooses any time he wants with anyone he wants because he knows that the LA DA is going to need an absolutely air tight case against him to bring new charges. Even then he may hesitate for fear it will wind up with another ridiculous verdict like today's and will be seen as vindictiveness on the part of the state.
He's done it before, and he will do it again. Guaranteed
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posted on
06/13/2005 4:51:49 PM PDT
by
stm
To: Clint Williams
WTF?
Look I'm nowhere near PC, but that just p*sses me right off.
Anyone with even passing knowledge of LE knows that that statement is outright false.
The question is, why did he even postulate a demonstrably false predicate?
My tagline applies.
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posted on
06/13/2005 4:51:52 PM PDT
by
bill1952
("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
To: Graybeard58
"It's also important to remember that the rate of a repeat offense by a convicted child molester is low. "Sex offenders as a group have a relatively low recidivism rate. In fact, they have a lower recidivism rate than most other offenders," says John Q. La Fond, author of a new book, "Preventing Sexual Violence."
Where did they get this stuff? This is a complete opposite of everything else I've heard on this subject.
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posted on
06/13/2005 4:52:50 PM PDT
by
jocon307
(Can we close the border NOW?)
To: blogblogginaway
Also, how do we really know WHAT the repeat rate is? Unless a child has the courage to tell someone and they are caught, we don't.
To: mvpel
It's also important to remember that the rate of a repeat offense by a convicted child molester is low. I quit reading right there, this article is crap.
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posted on
06/13/2005 5:01:02 PM PDT
by
FrogMom
To: cardinal4
John Q. La Fraud was a twenty year professor at the University of Puget Sound in ultraliberal Tacoma, Washington. He's long been an apologist for sex criminals, and he's been instrumental in WA state's weenie attitude towards perverts. When a guy writes papers like "Washington's Sexually Violent Predator Law: A Deliberate Misuse of the Therapeutic State for Social Control" AFTER the state passed laws requiring child rapists to only serve six months in a halfway house, if they have enough money to get a SSOSA (Special Sexual Offender Sentencing Alternative), then you know he's a whack job liberal nutcase who should never be believed.
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posted on
06/13/2005 5:03:38 PM PDT
by
hunter112
(Total victory at home and in the Middle East!)
To: HangnJudge
Correct. As the wagon trains set out on the Oregon Trail, the stated rules were a rapist was to receive 39 lashes a day for three days.
Still digging to see if it ever happened.
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posted on
06/13/2005 5:05:36 PM PDT
by
investigateworld
( God bless Poland for giving the world JP II & a Protestant bump for his Sainthood!)
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