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Possible Earth-like planet discovered
Houston Comical (AP) ^ | June 13, 2005, 2:14PM

Posted on 06/13/2005 12:42:00 PM PDT by The_Victor

WASHINGTON  — A planet that may be Earth-like — but too hot for life as we know it — has been discovered orbiting a nearby star.

The discovery of the planet, with an estimated radius about twice that of Earth, was announced today at the National Science Foundation.

"This is the smallest extrasolar planet yet detected and the first of a new class of rocky terrestrial planets," Paul Butler of the Carnegie Institution in Washington said in a statement. "It's like Earth's bigger cousin."

Geoffrey Marcy, professor of astronomy at the University of California, Berkeley, added: "Over 2,000 years ago, the Greek philosophers Aristotle and Epicurus argued about whether there were other Earth-like planets. Now, for the first time, we have evidence for a rocky planet around a normal star."

Though the researchers have no direct proof that the new planet is rocky, its mass means it is not a giant gas planet like Jupiter, they said. They estimated the planet's mass as 5.9 to 7.5 times that of Earth.

It is orbiting a star called Gliese 876, 15 light years from Earth, with an orbit time of just 1.94 Earth days. They estimated the surface temperature on the new planet at between 400 degrees and 750 degrees Fahrenheit.

Gliese 876 is a small, red star with about one-third the mass of the sun. The researchers said this is the smallest star around which planets have been discovered. In addition to the newly found planet the star has two large gas planets around it.

Butler said the researchers think that the most probable composition of the planet is similar to inner planets of this solar system — a nickel/iron rock.

Gregory Laughlin of the Lick Observatory at the University of California, Santa Cruz, said a planet of this mass could have enough gravity to hold onto an atmosphere. "It would still be considered a rocky planet, probably with an iron core and a silicon mantle. It could even have a dense steamy water layer."

Three other extrasolar planets believed to be of rocky composition have been reported, but they orbit a pulsar — the flashing corpse of an exploded star — rather than a normal type of star.

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National Science Foundation: http://www.nsf.gov


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: space; xplanets
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To: RockinRight

That's just nasty to see while eating dinner!


61 posted on 06/13/2005 4:41:01 PM PDT by mombonn (¡Viva Bush/Cheney!)
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To: KevinDavis

The Bible says God created the heavens AND the earth...which to me leaves open the possibility of life elsewhere.


62 posted on 06/13/2005 4:42:00 PM PDT by RockinRight (Conservatism is common sense, liberalism is just senseless.)
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To: cripplecreek
To sum up all the responses you've gotten to your query: The gravity at the surface of a planet works out to be directly proportional to both its density and diameter.
63 posted on 06/13/2005 4:42:51 PM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: KevinDavis

Earth-like but far too hot for any type of life? Doesn't sound very "earth-like" to me.


64 posted on 06/13/2005 4:44:22 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: KevinDavis
Earth-like — but too hot

Earthlike but too cold, earthlike but too big, earthlike but too gaseous, earthlike but too hot, earthlike but too small. What is earthlike when it isn't earthlike?

Ans. Whatever planet a scientist on a grant discovers.

65 posted on 06/13/2005 4:44:50 PM PDT by RightWhale (Some may think I am a methodist)
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To: KevinDavis
This can't be true.. The bible says so!!! God only created Earth!!

The Bible says God only created Earth? Scripture please. God is a Creator, why would he create such a vast universe for only us?

66 posted on 06/13/2005 4:47:38 PM PDT by ozarkgirl
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To: brownsfan

What is the mathematical formulae for gravity?


67 posted on 06/13/2005 4:48:21 PM PDT by theDentist (The Dems have put all their eggs in one basket-case: Howard "Belltower" Dean.)
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To: ozarkgirl

Sarcasm.....


68 posted on 06/13/2005 4:48:22 PM PDT by KevinDavis (the space/future belongs to the eagles, the earth/past to the groundhogs)
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To: cripplecreek; RockinRight
I'm curious if the gravity of a planet is affected by it's density. I know our gas giants aren't very dense yet they have extremely strong gravitational fields. Or is mass more of a factor than density?

Post #6 pretty much answers those questions. It depicts a very dense gas giant ;)

69 posted on 06/13/2005 4:48:24 PM PDT by m87339 (Squawk: "Plane is rough on Autoland" Response: "Autoland not installed on this equipment")
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To: RightWhale
Don't be too cynical. This is a pretty significant development. When pretty much all they've been discovering so far are gas giants 15 times the size of Jupiter, this is quite a new lead.
70 posted on 06/13/2005 4:49:13 PM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: theDentist
I can't write it out in proper mathematical form, but I know that the gravity from any given point of mass is directly proportional to that mass, and inversely proportional to the square of the distance from it.

When dealing with a uniform shell of mass (and planets can be thought of as just a bunch of concentric uniform shells of mass), the gravity, for all points outside the shell, is the same as it would be if all the mass were concentrated at the center.

71 posted on 06/13/2005 4:53:11 PM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: m87339

Ive pretty much figured out that it matters how much there is not how densely it's packed.

In any case I don't think we would be walking around on the surface of a rocky planet 6 to 7 and a half times as massive as the earth.


72 posted on 06/13/2005 4:54:18 PM PDT by cripplecreek (I zot trolls for fun and profit.)
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To: inquest

An earthsize planet discovery is pushing the boundaries of what is possible. Soon, though, when the new hardware gets placed in space, there will be a lot of new planets found, including small, rocky planets. Earthlike is possible, but I wouldn't plan on it.


73 posted on 06/13/2005 4:55:38 PM PDT by RightWhale (Some may think I am a methodist)
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To: theDentist

I was somewhat in error. Density does matter in that the more dense an object is the smaller the radius. This website has a good treatment of the subject.

http://www.geocities.com/nickemarkov/ExpansionAndGravitation.html


74 posted on 06/13/2005 4:55:52 PM PDT by brownsfan (Post No Bills)
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To: cripplecreek
When you're on the surface, it does indeed matter how dense the planet is. But you're probably right that the gravity of this particular one is too heavy for anyone to be walking on, unless the thing's made out of really light material.
75 posted on 06/13/2005 4:58:04 PM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: inquest

It has to be a typo, at 2M miles with an orbit of 1.94 days should have read 1.94 years. Am I looking at this wrong? What say you?


76 posted on 06/13/2005 4:58:15 PM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (If Islam is a religion of peace, they should fire their P.R. guy!)
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To: cripplecreek

Again, refer to the pic in post 6.

A gas giant with a LOT of air between the poles.


77 posted on 06/13/2005 4:58:28 PM PDT by m87339 (Squawk: "Plane is rough on Autoland" Response: "Autoland not installed on this equipment")
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To: K4Harty

Maybe they meant rotation?

A 2 day orbit would put it almost 1/2 million miles an hour (someone want to check my math?)


78 posted on 06/13/2005 4:59:57 PM PDT by m87339 (Squawk: "Plane is rough on Autoland" Response: "Autoland not installed on this equipment")
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To: m87339

That kind of gravity only attracts moonbats.


79 posted on 06/13/2005 5:00:28 PM PDT by cripplecreek (I zot trolls for fun and profit.)
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To: waverna; Rummyfan; El Gato
Here's the welcoming committee:


80 posted on 06/13/2005 5:02:16 PM PDT by Huntress (Possession really is nine tenths of the law.)
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