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Ron Paul - NeoCon Global Government
House Web Site ^ | 6-13-2005 | Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX)

Posted on 06/13/2005 10:08:34 AM PDT by jmc813

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To: hedgetrimmer

That was the creepy thing about the 2000 presidential election. When things stalled out, they called out James Baker and Warren Christopher, both of whom are big time CFR/Trilateralists to referee the results.

I really think we came that close (holding my fingers an inch apart) to a Constitutional crisis in 2000. When the CFR cabal openly trots out guys of that caliber to make sure things work out the way they wanted.

There appears to be two "schools" among the CFR members. One group favors an EU/Socialist model of governance. That's the Clinton/Carter school of "Internationalism." The folks who have come to be known as "neo-cons" are globalists who favor a model based on the US/Democratic model, although centralized through a UN-style world government. Neither Reagan or Bush "43" were CFR members, but their administrations were full of appointees with CFR ties. All the other presidents going back to Wilson were members of either the CFR or the Trilateral Commission (since the 1970s), or both.

They want to get this UN-reform stuff in place before 2008, because if that election is close, there is a strong chance that those UN troops might be needed to restore order. All you'd need is a candidate who refused to concede and we'd have civil war. (Think Hillary...)


21 posted on 06/13/2005 12:30:34 PM PDT by gregwest
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To: gregwest
They want to get this UN-reform stuff in place before 2008

Well, we'll just have to stop them.
22 posted on 06/13/2005 12:54:11 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: jmc813

I have a wonderful idea. How about we cut off funding either way, whether the UN adopts the reforms or not?


23 posted on 06/13/2005 2:09:26 PM PDT by Zero Sum (Marxism is the opiate of the masses.)
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To: jmc813

Next thing ya know they will be advocation silencing critics
and call it 'Campaign Finance Reform'


24 posted on 06/13/2005 5:21:15 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Taglines often reveal a lot about the inner person...)
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To: RockinRight
There was as much chance of a plane hitting Ben Laden's cave in Afganistan, as it would the U.N.. Same people inside.
25 posted on 06/13/2005 5:27:19 PM PDT by photodawg
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To: Stevieboy

Maybe they think they can control it; that a powerful U.N. would be a tool in American hands. I think that is far too risky, myself. I'd rather we make an effort to keep the U.N. as weak as possible.


26 posted on 06/13/2005 5:30:46 PM PDT by Ruadh (Liberty is not a means to a political end. It is itself the highest political end. — LORD ACTON)
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To: pbrown; Coleus; B4Ranch; Paul_Denton; lodwick; texastoo; Kay Ludlow

Have you seen this yet?


27 posted on 06/13/2005 6:14:55 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: jmc813
How many opponents of the UN, on this thread, support expanding the Patriot Act? The Bush administration refuses to enforce our borders while telling us that they need more police powers to protect us from terrorists? People call this a conservative forum? Pshaw.
28 posted on 06/13/2005 6:59:22 PM PDT by Nephi ("I am in favor of free trade." - Karl Marx)
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To: inquest

Sort of the equivalent of electing a conservative to "make government more efficient and effective," or "save social security."

We get what we vote for and deserve, I suppose.


29 posted on 06/13/2005 7:19:06 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (<-- sick of faux-conservatives who want federal government intervention for 'conservative things.')
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To: Badray

hey ray, hows it going?
did you see this? thought you'd be interested.


30 posted on 06/13/2005 9:35:29 PM PDT by gdc61
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To: hedgetrimmer
No CFR establishment members or CFR establishment political experts should be nominated or allowed to run for office by either party.

Now you will see why this is just wishful thinking on your part. The CFR is the political ruling class of both parties... and hence, of this nation.

31 posted on 06/13/2005 10:06:22 PM PDT by streetpreacher (If at the end of the day, 100% of both sides are not angry with me, I've failed.)
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To: streetpreacher

Understood.


32 posted on 06/13/2005 10:13:15 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: Nephi
How many opponents of the UN, on this thread, support expanding the Patriot Act?

Not me. I'd rather abolish the first act so I guess I'm two for two.

33 posted on 06/13/2005 10:14:00 PM PDT by streetpreacher (If at the end of the day, 100% of both sides are not angry with me, I've failed.)
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To: gregwest

A lot of the establishment people were trying to stop Reagan. And after he was elected he was almost killed within a couple months by that attempted assasination.


34 posted on 06/13/2005 10:41:41 PM PDT by ran15
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To: gdc61

Good buddy. You?

Ya just had to piss me off, dintja? LOL

The bastards need drawn and quartered.


35 posted on 06/14/2005 12:02:50 AM PDT by Badray
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To: jmc813

http://www.cfr.org/pub7914/press_release/trinational_call_for_a_north_american_economic_and_security_community_by_2010.php

http://www.cfr.org/pub8104/press_release/task_force_urges_measures_to_strengthen_north_american_competitiveness_expand_trade_ensure_border_security.php

It's all coming together.


36 posted on 06/14/2005 8:33:09 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: Lazamataz

Ping to this thread for coincidence value.


37 posted on 06/14/2005 8:34:10 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: monkeywrench

I'm mostly a lurker here, so forgive my ignorance, but why are people on FR critical of Ron Paul? He states that we should completely remove ourselves from the UN. How can a conservative argue with that?


38 posted on 06/14/2005 9:04:42 AM PDT by Rob_DSM
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To: Rob_DSM

There are basement dwellers here, as in most forums, who have an interest in keeping the sheeple sleeping comfortably, like a big dumb Gulliver on the beach, as their masters wind string after string around the sleeping giant.


39 posted on 06/14/2005 9:27:35 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: Rob_DSM

What he said in 39.


40 posted on 06/14/2005 9:56:32 AM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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