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I do not want to make a response as long as your post.

I think your intentions do not warrant it.

I think the majority of conservatives should avoid getting caught up at all in political battles about evolution vs creationism vs intelligent design; the entire issue does not stand anywhere near the heart of conservatism in general nor is it at the heart of the major problems that plaugue the country - from a conservative perspective. It is a way-down-there-at-the-bottom side issue and far below the basic problems with Marxist oriented judges and academic insttutions; and the left's constant success at achieving its goals through the courts and acadmemically indocrinated dogma, when it can't when democratically.

The fringe issue of evolution vs creationism vs intelligent design does not help conservatives win on the basic conservative issues of how our government is supposed to be organized and work (as opposed to what someone wants to achieve out of that properly working government). This fringe issue attempts to place legitimate, overall, general conservative goals into a minority's agenda, much like leftists do to the agenda of Democrats. I want no part of it and will not contribute to it.

You are not "unChristian" if you do not accept either Creationism or Intellligent Design.

First off intelligent design was brought out to offer the same arguments as Creationism, ony to leave the religious sentiment out of it. It is a masquerade and it has never worked.

Secondly, the majority of Christians accept that (1)actual creation is a mystery of God and one we do not have to understand, God does not expect us to understand, salvation does not depend on our understanding it and (2) which the Bible explains in mostly allegory, not "history". The truth is in the spiritual meaning if you have the ears and the faith to hear it. Some people will read many things in the Bible their whole lives and never hear what is really being said. The truth is not the story; it is spiritual and moral truth embeded in the story. That is why the Bible can be followed on many levels.

Therefore, many Christians can accept God's "intelligent design" in the universe, even in the acceptance of "evolution" and "DNA" and astrophycics and many other scientific areas as wonderous examples of knowledge about WHAT God has created because we know, that in spite of all we know, we have no idea HOW God created all of this. The greatest scientists have never bought into either Creationism or Intelligent Design, but they have all seen the hand of God, or "the creator" or "intelligence" behind their greatest discoveries.

Conservatives, if we want to keep advancing, should relegate the issue of Creationism and Intelligent Design to the place they belong, which is the same place as American Marxists - on the fringes of important political discourse.

You are not "unChristian" if you do not accept either Creationism or Intellligent Design.

Unfortunately, most Christians 'believe' Evolution because they do NOT know what their Bible says. If, as they say, they 'believe' the words of Jesus and then of the New Testement writers, they have to decide what the following verses mean:

Romans 5:12-21
12. Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all men, because all sinned--
13. for before the law was given, sin was in the world. But sin is not taken into account when there is no law.
14. Nevertheless, death reigned from the time of Adam to the time of Moses, even over those who did not sin by breaking a command, as did Adam, who was a pattern of the one to come.
15. But the gift is not like the trespass. For if the many died by the trespass of the one man, how much more did God's grace and the gift that came by the grace of the one man, Jesus Christ, overflow to the many!
16. Again, the gift of God is not like the result of the one man's sin: The judgment followed one sin and brought condemnation, but the gift followed many trespasses and brought justification.
17. For if, by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man, how much more will those who receive God's abundant provision of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man, Jesus Christ.
18. Consequently, just as the result of one trespass was condemnation for all men, so also the result of one act of righteousness was justification that brings life for all men.
19. For just as through the disobedience of the one man, the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous.
20. The law was added so that the trespass might increase. But where sin increased, grace increased all the more,
21. so that, just as sin reigned in death, so also grace might reign through righteousness to bring eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

If there were no one man, that means SIN did NOT enter the World thru him.

If Adam was NOT the one man, that means SPIRITUAL DEATH did not come thru him.

If SIN did NOT enter the World thru the one man, that means Jesus does not save from SIN.

Are we to believe that the one man is symbolic? Does that mean Jesus is symbolic as well?

The Theory of Evolution states that there WAS no one man, but a wide population that managed to inherit that last mutated gene that makes MEN different from APES.

1 Timothy 2:13

For Adam was formed first, then Eve. Was Paul WRONG about this???