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To: Ohioan
The "Civil Rights" movement--and those on this thread who so hate the South--have used exactly the same technique against the traditional Southerners (whose States, interestingly, were the first in America where Jews were fully accepted into the mainstream of society).

Anybody who asserts that Jews were better accepted in Alabama than in New York is -- to be blunt about it -- smoking crack.

751 posted on 07/22/2005 6:46:42 AM PDT by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: steve-b
Anybody who asserts that Jews were better accepted in Alabama than in New York is -- to be blunt about it -- smoking crack.

Union General Grant issued an order EXPELLING Jews from Union territory. Halleck informed Grant that, 'The President has no objection to your expelling traitors and Jew peddlers'.

The Confederate Secretary of State/War and Attorney General, Judah P. Benjamin, was Jewish. Both Benjamin and David Yulee of Florida served as US Senators. Philip Phillips of Alabama served as US Representative. David Emanuel was Governor of Georgia in 1801. Adolph Meyer of Mississippi served as US Representative, as did David S. Kaufman of Texas.

'Before the Civil War there was also likely a higher proportion of Jews among the white population of the South than in the Northeast.'
Jonathan Glaser in American Judaism, cited by Eli N. Evans, Provincials: A Personal History of Jews in the South, Chapel Hill, NC: UNC Press (2005), p. 43.

752 posted on 07/22/2005 9:39:53 AM PDT by 4CJ (||) OUR sins put Him on that cross. HIS love for us kept Him there.(||)
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To: steve-b
The neo-confederates continuously harp about General Grant's Order #11, while deliberately ignoring President Grant's appointments of numerous Jewish Americans to key positions during his two term, post-Civil War presidency.

""In 1868, U.S. Grant was elected President of the United States. He never expressed or engaged in any anti-Semitic act for the rest of his life. He never apologized for General Order Number 11. Grant's administration was extraordinary in that Grant appointed more Jews to more governmental positions than any previous President. He nominated a Jew to be Secretary of the Treasury. He ordered the American State department to help the Jews in Rumania when they were savagely attached in anti-Semitic rioting. Grant was the first President to attend a Jewish religious service when he officiated at the dedication of Washington, D.C.'s conservative Adas Israel synagogue."

"1868 saw the passage of the 14th amendment to the Constitution of the United States. Federal law would be dominant over State law. North Carolina, the last State to require a belief in Christianity to hold elected office, officially changed its laws in 1868. Jews in the Civil War era had undergone a radical transformation in America. They were now truly Americans, equal with Christians in opportunity and freedom. Jewish organizations began to stand up and represent Jewish interests on a national basis. Prejudices remained but no longer would federal, state or local law prohibit Jews from the promise of America."

By Jerry Klinger - President of the Jewish American Society for Historic Preservation.

In relation to President Lincoln, Rabbi Dr. Tzvi Hersh Weinreb, executive vice president of the Orthodox Union (Manhattan), writes the following:

"The critical point, for Jews, was that they be fully included in the memorials for Lincoln. The slain president’s friendship with Jews and the gratitude Jews felt toward him made them especially eager to participate as equals in the rites of national mourning. In New York, some 3000 Jews marched in Lincoln’s funeral pageant, at least half a dozen Jewish leaders sat on the dais, and one of the 6 speakers from among the clergy was Samuel Isaacs – granted coequal status with the others.."

Rabbi Weinreb is also vice-president of the Rabbinical Council of America, NY, NY.

753 posted on 07/22/2005 12:14:40 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is not free)
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To: steve-b
Anybody who asserts that Jews were better accepted in Alabama than in New York is -- to be blunt about it -- smoking crack.

Your ignorance is pathetic. Jews were not accepted into New York Society in the 19th Century, much less before 1860. On the other hand, Judah P.Benjamin, afterwards Secretary of State for the Confederacy, and one of the ablest legal minds of his time, was actually the man chosen to present the legal Southern Argument for secession, when the Southern Senators were saying their farewells to their Senate comrades in early 1861.

While Jefferson Davis delivered merely a short, heartfelt explanation of their position, Benjamin delivered a lengthy legal analysis of the issues, in terms of internationally accepted legal principles well understood by the Founding Fathers, and reflected in their writings, which to my knowledge has never been really answered.

And Benjamin was not the only Jewish Senator from the 1860 South.

You are either a mean spirited rascal, or just plain ignorant of what you write about. Indeed, your whole reason for being on this thread is to spread hatred. What a pitiful performance.

William Flax

756 posted on 07/22/2005 2:10:29 PM PDT by Ohioan
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