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Bush's popularity being hurt by Iraq, gas prices
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Posted on 06/12/2005 4:23:39 PM PDT by phoenix_004

President George W. Bush finds his job approval rating with the American people at an all-time low, according to The Associated Press-Ipsos poll.

Maybe that's not all bad. Leaders should not always bend with every breeze, and a couple of factors could immediately change the ratings:

- Getting the hell out of Iraq.

- A drop in motor fuel prices.

To put it mildly, things aren't going as well as we would like in Iraq, where car bombings and attacks by insurgents killed 80 U.S. troops and more than 700 Iraqis last month. The level of violence remains fairly constant, and Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld has to repeat the game plan: Train Iraqis to provide their own security, so our forces can come home. There are distant echoes of Vietnam in that strategy, where the U.S. relied on "Vietnamization" of the war - turning that nation's defense over to the South Vietnamese - to get out. Vietnamization eventually occurred, but not on our terms.As for the nebulous Bush plan to establish democracy in the Middle East, most Americans either don't like it, think it's a pipe dream, or at least don't understand it. And if high gasoline and diesel fuel prices began to fall, that in itself would make people like Bush a lot better. We have to wonder when we see images of the U.S. president holding hands with a Saudi leader why Bush doesn't jawbone his way to greater supplies of oil, putting downward pressure on its cost.

Bush professes to be undisturbed by his dismal public ratings. His observation: "You can find them going up, and you can find them going down."

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Pres. bush is right in doing what is best for the country rather than what is best for himself!!!!!
1 posted on 06/12/2005 4:23:40 PM PDT by phoenix_004
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W's popularity is a non-issue: he's a second-term president. He can do whatever he wants, and as you say, he's doing what's best for the country rather than what's best for himself (unlike Clinton in his second term.) The libbies really need to find something else to whine about.


2 posted on 06/12/2005 4:27:09 PM PDT by DGray (http://nicanfhilidh.blogspot.com)
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I dunno know about that, thousands of illegals are invading our borders daily. Bush may think it's good for our Country but most of the rest of us disagree.


3 posted on 06/12/2005 4:30:15 PM PDT by SouthernFreebird
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To: phoenix_004

If his popularity is being harmed it's most likely due to immigration issues. The liberals hated him anyway and we're unhappy with the open border. I do recognize that the border isn't his responsibility alone.


4 posted on 06/12/2005 4:30:20 PM PDT by cripplecreek (I zot trolls for fun and profit.)
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He doesn't need to have a poll...he isn't going to be running for anything, he's at the top of his game.

He has a beautiful legacy and can retire.


5 posted on 06/12/2005 4:32:44 PM PDT by HarleyLady27 (My ? to Libs: "Do they ever shut up on your planet?")
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To: SouthernFreebird
Spot on.

Iraq, gas prices and the illegal alien/border issue.

6 posted on 06/12/2005 4:38:26 PM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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"Bush's popularity being hurt by Iraq, gas prices"

But mostly by illegal Immi.....SHHHH!

Don't mention that!

7 posted on 06/12/2005 4:45:05 PM PDT by rimmont
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To: phoenix_004
- Getting the hell out of Iraq.

- A drop in motor fuel prices.

There's one problem with this: there's no way to obtain both of those. You get the hell out of Iraq, and fuel prices go up, as the country will destablize even more. And, until things stablize there, fuel prices won't go down- the best way to stablize things is to remain there for now.

8 posted on 06/12/2005 4:45:14 PM PDT by SunnyD1182
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This is a under-minding article meant to tare us apart from the inside why do we even have to read crap like this here if you have a way to fix things fix it or shut up and sit down! SHEZZZ!
9 posted on 06/12/2005 4:50:40 PM PDT by MEpajamaMONSTER (Bad dawg baaad dawg)
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To: SunnyD1182


Good point!


10 posted on 06/12/2005 4:51:03 PM PDT by phoenix_004
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To: SouthernFreebird

..thousands of illegals are invading our borders daily. Bush may think it's good for our Country but most of the rest of us disagree.
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He knows it is NOT good for our country, and that people hate it. But Bush has an agenda, at our expense to our country and its integrity. If Bush is going down, literally, it will be on his OBVIOUS attitude about this problem. His legacy will be about ANOTHER President, like Clinton, that avoided fixing a huge security, demographic, legal and financial problem that was CREATED BY WASHINGTON'S ELITIST POLITICS of self-servitude.


11 posted on 06/12/2005 4:51:17 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: phoenix_004
Bush professes to be undisturbed by his dismal public ratings. His observation: "You can find them going up, and you can find them going down."


12 posted on 06/12/2005 4:51:18 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
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In March 1968, Johnson's job approval was 36%, due largely to growing objections to the Vietnam War. He quit the race.

In March 1952, Harry Truman's approval had been dragged to 25% by the Korean War.

Bush has enough core support I think to keep from dropping as low as Truman, but he might edge out LBJ if Iraq is the same in 2008. Hillary might have played her cards perfect.


13 posted on 06/12/2005 4:54:42 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
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If you read the entire article, you can easily see it has the wrong title. The title ought to be, "Bush's Popularity Hurt More By High Gas Prices Than Iraq War." That is because the Democrats have been saying all along that the War in Iraq was "all about oil." The subtle, daily MSM propragada is beginning to take its toll.

Nobody is the U.S. likes higher prices at the gas pump. As for myself, I drive a diesel. It gets 38 mpg. and will run on # 2 diesel, kerosene or fuel oil.

Read More About High Oil Prices?

14 posted on 06/12/2005 4:59:25 PM PDT by ex-Texan (Mathew 7:1 through 6)
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This is just one more fall back position by the major media outlets. Explect to see months of this bull s--t! They'll do their damdest to drive Bush's numbers into the dirt, to further their anti-American agenda.


15 posted on 06/12/2005 5:00:45 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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They'll do their damdest to drive Bush's numbers into the dirt, to further their anti-American agenda.

Wait, Are you saying the MSM hates GWB?......aw come on....(HEAVY SARC)

16 posted on 06/12/2005 5:04:39 PM PDT by tiredoflaundry (I hate Hurricane Season!)
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Perhaps these latest terror attacks in Iran and Russia bring people back to their senses. Or are we going to hear it's all safe and over, no more Patriot Act.
We have a choice to either stay and fight terrorists or again run away with Islamists and Western worlds belittling and laughing at those run away backpedaled Americans.
Islam's terrorist's will leave nothing unturned in their pursuit of the one and only defender of the free world.
Islam has conquest of the world along with surpressing those infidels firmly in their visors, and the U.S.A. is the key to a world conquest.
Just sit and wait, with a weakened will of defending ourselves or even no longer waging war against terrorists leads directly to the king without clothes:
A former and now self destructing pitiful leader.
17 posted on 06/12/2005 5:15:49 PM PDT by hermgem
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As for the nebulous Bush plan to establish democracy in the Middle East, most Americans either don't like it, think it's a pipe dream, or at least don't understand it.

Most of the people are probably in the third group. There are probably also many people who don't like the way things are going but can't see a good solution. I wish things were better, but I'd rather we fight the jihadists over there than over here.

There isn't much that the president can do about gasoline prices. Liberals in Congress aren't going to allow drilling in ANWR, and prices and availability of overseas supplies will always fluctuate. If we could have regulatory and tort reform that would lead to building new refineries in the United States, we might have lower prices, but again, the liberals in Congress won't allow that.

Another smart move that would help the president would be to put a tariff on refined products coming into the country while dropping the federal gasoline tax. Some countries that have always supplied crude oil are now trying to build their own refineries and sell finished products to the American market. That trend will result in fewer good jobs for Americans and more dependence on foreign sources of energy. To discourage this trend, we should have a tariff on foreign refined products. To remain revenue neutral, we should lower the federal gasoline tax.

Bill

18 posted on 06/12/2005 5:35:37 PM PDT by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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To: phoenix_004; DGray; SouthernFreebird; cripplecreek; HarleyLady27; Czar; ex-Texan; EagleUSA; ...

GWB JOB APPROVAL . . .
June 8, 2005

AP/IPSOS REID: 43%
This poll is pure fraud; read all about it at: http://therevolutionwillbeblogged.blogspot.com/2005/06/ap-ipsos-poll-is-fraud.html

GALLUP: 47%
[88% approval from Republicans -- all that matters!]

RASMUSSEN: 51%
[since 2004, Rasmussen has proven to be the most accurate of the 3 pollsters cited!]

Driven by their political orientation and/or professional laziness, ALL of these pollsters are currently 'oversampling' both Democrats and the socio-politically ignorant (i.e., 'adults only' vs 'registered' or 'likely voters'). They won't start producing VALID polling results until a month or two before the 2006 election!

BOTTOMLINE: Ignore all of this polling nonsense; if you can't, just remember the following:

1.) President Bush has had, and continues to have, a higher JA from Republicans than President Reagan . . . and for his second term, this is all that matters!! [FYI: Can you imagine what the media/'fair weather' Republicans must have been saying when President Reagan's JA hit a 'Gallup' low of 35% in his first term and 43% in his second term?! . . . To date, GWB's lowest Gallup rating has been 45%]

2.) The Gallup JA ratings posted for GWB in May/June '05 are THE SAME as the Gallup ratings posted during May/June '04 and the 47% posted this week is the same rating that Gallup posted all during October '04 -- before the President won an historic 62 million votes and 51% of the overall vote -- a MAJORITY vote that eluded Bill Clinton during BOTH of his campaigns even though he posted a Gallup JA of 54% the day before he garnered only 49% of the vote in 1996 . . . hmmmmmmmmmmmmm?!)!

BOTTOMLINE: Current polls are as BOGUS as those published during the summer of 2004 when half the people at FR were ready to jump off tall buildings because the MSM (and their rigged polls) had them convinced that the President couldn't possibly win in November. THE POLLS THEN AND THE POLLS NOW HAVE ONE PURPOSE, TO DEMORALIZE REPUBLICANS AND ENERGIZE DEMOCRATS.

[FYI: Both public and internal polls indicate that only 5-10% of the public consider immigration to be a 'top tier' issue . . . The War in Iraq and the economy/jobs are still the primary drivers of public opinion!]


19 posted on 06/12/2005 6:44:27 PM PDT by DrDeb
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Polls are trash. I was right about that in the days leading up to the election and I'm right about it now.


20 posted on 06/12/2005 6:51:33 PM PDT by cripplecreek (I zot trolls for fun and profit.)
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