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Mark Steyn: Who can stop the rise and rise of China? The communists, of course
The Sunday Telegraph (U.K.) ^ | 06/12/05 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 06/11/2005 2:58:59 PM PDT by Pokey78

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1 posted on 06/11/2005 2:58:59 PM PDT by Pokey78
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To: Howlin; riley1992; Miss Marple; deport; Dane; sinkspur; steve; kattracks; JohnHuang2; ...

Steyn ping!


2 posted on 06/11/2005 2:59:52 PM PDT by Pokey78 (‘FREE [INSERT YOUR FETID TOTALITARIAN BASKET-CASE HERE]’)
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To: Pokey78

***The Chinese of wealth always builds his house with a cunning simulation of external poverty. ***

My brother wanted to build an underground mansion. It would be accessable only though a secret elevator conceled in a rundown mobile home on the land above it.

Alas, he never built it.


3 posted on 06/11/2005 3:06:04 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Pokey78

Mid-century? When half the population is over 60, and the other half consists of 2/3 men and 1/3 women?

I don't know what you want to call it, but it's not going to be pretty.


4 posted on 06/11/2005 3:06:16 PM PDT by proxy_user
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To: Pokey78
The 21st century will be an Anglosphere century, with America, India and Australia leading the way. Anti-Americans betting on Beijing will find the China shop is in the end mostly a lot of bull.

Thanks, Pokey. This is another Steyn gem:

5 posted on 06/11/2005 3:06:44 PM PDT by RobFromGa (Send Bolton to the UN!)
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To: Pokey78
" its internet protective blocks are not the armour but the, er, chink."

Damn Steyn owes me another keyboard.

L

6 posted on 06/11/2005 3:07:18 PM PDT by Lurker (Remember the Beirut Bombing; 243 dead Marines. The House of Assad and Hezbollah did it..)
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To: Pokey78

http://www.neoperspectives.com/china.htm

Some scattered posts on china.


7 posted on 06/11/2005 3:07:20 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/charterschoolsexplained.htm)
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To: Natural Law; Paul_Denton

Good article!


8 posted on 06/11/2005 3:11:31 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: Pokey78
Thanks for the ping!

Steyn scores another bullseye hit of the fawning self-loathing liberal class. Falling for the "Potemkin Villages v. 2.0" of China, hook, line and sinker.

Follow the rose-colored glasses. And you will find liberals.

Anyways, I have read an analysis that, the Communist Party, which lines it's own and its families pockets, that would represent a wealthy ruling class of about 150-250 million people. As many as well-to-do as our own country.

That many wealthy can put on a good front to foreigners to conceal the state of affairs for the other 1 billion souls under their heels, and noses chained to grindstones.


9 posted on 06/11/2005 3:16:24 PM PDT by Paul Ross (George Patton: "I hate to have to fight for the same ground twice.")
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To: Pokey78

Markk Steyn: I want to marry your brain.


10 posted on 06/11/2005 3:17:18 PM PDT by Conservatrix ("He who stands for nothing will fall for anything.")
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To: proxy_user

NAMBLA workers paradise?


11 posted on 06/11/2005 3:19:23 PM PDT by ncountylee
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"One country, two systems" will lead to two or three countries, three or four systems. "

Its just a matter of time!!!!!!!!


12 posted on 06/11/2005 3:21:39 PM PDT by phoenix_004
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To: Paul Ross

I agree. Sooner or later, those 1 billion folks in the backwoods are gonna want a slice of the faux prosperity pie. There's already unrest in some of the Muslim provinces in western China, and Tibet is always a hotspot. Throw in the fact that communism is completely antithetical to basic human nature(why else would they so fear Falun Gong?), and I could see the regime folding like a house of cards within the next 20-30 years.


13 posted on 06/11/2005 3:24:46 PM PDT by ABG(anybody but Gore) (I don't hate anybody, except the French....)
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To: Pokey78
When European analysts coo about a "Chinese century", all they mean is "Oh, God, please, anything other than a second American century".

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

14 posted on 06/11/2005 3:37:56 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("They settled down hard on a government grant, with six mouths to feed and forty acres to plant.")
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The race in China is to see how much military might they can accumulate before economic collapse. If they get very strong before they start collapsing, as they start collapsing those in power may do something stupid to try to hang on.

The Communist doctrine still depends on world domination to eliminate dissenters and opposition. They are only flirting with free enterprise to fund their soon-to-be-powerful military. Free enterprise doesn't exist without freedom and they are too stupid to realize that.

That was the whole idea behind Nixon's initiative with China. Yeah, that Nixon, the one being vilified to boost the reputation of journalists.

15 posted on 06/11/2005 3:48:04 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: Pokey78
the Chinese government, which pretends to be a world power but is terrified of words.

I wonder if China spends as much money trying to stop the speaking of some words as the US spends trying to stop Americans from smoking a weed... and the US is a world power.
16 posted on 06/11/2005 4:07:42 PM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: Pokey78

Thanks Pokey

Steyn is one of our premier teachers in understanding reality.


17 posted on 06/11/2005 4:14:35 PM PDT by maica
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To: ABG(anybody but Gore)
I could see the regime folding like a house of cards within the next 20-30 years.

It certainly "could". But not necessarily...and not without help. These kinds of regimes don't fold easily. The Soviets didn't. They didn't "just" collapse, or by the milk of human kindness springing from Gorbachev's breast, as the liberals want to believe.

They were pushed over the cliff by Ronald Reagan,

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Reagan's administration empowered the internal opponents and dissenters by our strongest shows of support.

We had a confrontational strategy then. Which was magnanimous in victory:

Unfortunately, what we have now is one of denial and self-delusion about the nature of their regime. And with that self-delusion, we have empowered their regime, rewarding them immensely with an exponentially-increasing economic windfall...all for merely pretending to be one of the club.

18 posted on 06/11/2005 4:15:34 PM PDT by Paul Ross (George Patton: "I hate to have to fight for the same ground twice.")
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19 posted on 06/11/2005 4:25:28 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (<-- sick of faux-conservatives who want federal government intervention for 'conservative things.')
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To: Mind-numbed Robot

"Free enterprise doesn't exist without freedom and they are too stupid to realize that. That was the whole idea behind Nixon's initiative with China. Yeah, that Nixon, the one being vilified to boost the reputation of journalists."

Nixon deserves vilification. We are boosting the fortunes of the Communist state we will eventually have to stand and fight if following Bush's inaugural goals to make people free around the world. No one here would have accepted that for Nicaragua or Cuba. People here loathe Armand Hammer. Nixonian detente would have been rightfully called appeasement if he'd have had a "-D" after his name on the ballot.


20 posted on 06/11/2005 4:31:39 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (<-- sick of faux-conservatives who want federal government intervention for 'conservative things.')
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