Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Natalee's body found... (false report)

Posted on 06/11/2005 11:05:50 AM PDT by kcvl

Per Fox News...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aruba; joranvandersloot; kalpoebrothers; natalee; nataleeholloway; pantiesphoto; threerichpunksdidit
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 2,261-2,2802,281-2,3002,301-2,3202,321-2,324 next last
To: Rippersnapper
I haven't read the whole thread and don't really think I can at this point.

I'm surmising now that something "bad did happen to Natalee" as they reported. Do you know if anyone has thoughts on how they disposed of her body? Did any of these three have access to a boat? I would imagine the sharks would take care of anything dropped off the side of a boat. Although that island looks like there are a lot of open spaces and ponds where they could get rid of evidence.

Seems to me if the two brothers were the only ones with a car that night they would at least be accessories to whatever happened.
2,301 posted on 06/16/2005 8:59:25 AM PDT by WestCoastGal (Jr "Elvis made a few bad movies," he grinned. "This too shall pass.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2281 | View Replies]

To: MAWG
MAWG, what you said isn't beyond the realm of possibility.

Last night on BOR, one of Natalees girlfriends (not her roommate) said that she herself had laid out by the pool till 5am that morning.

Now, that statement is neither here nor there when it comes to Natalees disappearance, but it does show that the kids do "odd" things when away from home.

And yes, Natalee could have been abducted by someone other than the boys. HOWEVER, why did the boys originally say they dropped Natalee off when in fact they didn't? Got to keep going back to that.

2,302 posted on 06/16/2005 9:00:37 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife (What happens in Aruba..stays in Aruba))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2298 | View Replies]

To: maggiefluffs
You can't just go in there like a cowboy, you have to give certain direction to investigators."

Ironic, I was reading that line just as FOX guy was repeating it.

From what I have heard, you CAN go in there like a cowboy. If correct, it was explained that in Aruba the rights of society trumps the rights of the individual.

Further, no warrants are needed. Nor is probable cause.

I am paraphrasing, but this is how someone explained it on one of the FOX p.m. shows. Can someone confirm or deny?

2,303 posted on 06/16/2005 9:00:55 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2275 | View Replies]

To: spectre

I agree if the boys are innocent why are they lying?

Just like Scott Peterson who lied from the beginning there was never any doubt in my mind that he murdered Lacy.


2,304 posted on 06/16/2005 9:02:37 AM PDT by WestCoastGal (Jr "Elvis made a few bad movies," he grinned. "This too shall pass.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2302 | View Replies]

To: MAWG
I disagree. For Snoot to text message the brothers saying they needed to talk, tells me there were things that occured that the brothers didn't know about OR that they needed to get alibis in order.

I did consider the possibility that they dropped Natalie off alone at the Marriot, but again that wouldn't explain the text message.

I'm thinking that maybe Snoot got a hold of Jamie and had him ditch her body either out to sea or on another coastline.

There were three guys. I doubt she could have gotten away from the three of them. I think they all 3 took turns with her. It isn't like Snoot ahd met the love of his life and was treating her special or anything. Nope. I think they all used her, and she didn't get away from them.

I think either the date rape drug didn't work, or wasn't used or wasn't strong enough, or they didn't use enough, or she didn't drink enough of it, that she knew what was goin on and who her attackers were. She could ID them and I think that is where things fall apart for the guys.

Maybe the text message was just to get together and fix their alibis because fingering the security guards didn't work.

These three have changed their stories too much to be innocent. jmo

2,305 posted on 06/16/2005 9:03:07 AM PDT by Rippersnapper
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2298 | View Replies]

To: No Surrender No Retreat

Roger That! Thanks, NSNR


2,306 posted on 06/16/2005 9:03:52 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2300 | View Replies]

To: No Surrender No Retreat

I think part of why this story is getting more attention is because Natalee's mom is there pressing buttons.


2,307 posted on 06/16/2005 9:06:07 AM PDT by Rippersnapper
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2299 | View Replies]

To: spectre
Not only that but there were a lot of people around the pool at 5 am and the pool isn't very far from the hotel. It isn't like it is out in the middle of nowhere.

The three guys stories, that's the key.

2,308 posted on 06/16/2005 9:08:50 AM PDT by Rippersnapper
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2302 | View Replies]

To: sarasota

If it was that simple why would he not tell police this?


2,309 posted on 06/16/2005 9:09:17 AM PDT by stlnative
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2240 | View Replies]

To: Protect the Bill of Rights

I also heard that a suspect can be held and interrogated up to six hours before calling an attorney.


2,310 posted on 06/16/2005 9:10:05 AM PDT by maggief
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2303 | View Replies]

To: WestCoastGal; Rippersnapper
Wow. So we agree that the boys revised their story for a reason.

Rip..your comment about all 3 boys having their way with Natalee is what I had suspected from the beginning.

After they gang banged her, they may have realized she could report them to LE and that's when Natalee met her fate. "A bad thing happened to Natalee"...Yes..them.

2,311 posted on 06/16/2005 9:12:20 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife (What happens in Aruba..stays in Aruba))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2304 | View Replies]

To: brigette

Fear. Waiting to talk to his dad to get legal counsel before saying anything further. Full panic mode.


2,312 posted on 06/16/2005 9:20:20 AM PDT by sarasota
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2309 | View Replies]

To: spectre
After they gang banged her, they may have realized she could report them to LE and that's when Natalee met her fate. "A bad thing happened to Natalee"...Yes..them.

Yep. The difference between this evening's fun and most others for them was that she wasn't willing and she could ID them. Maybe the stuff that looked like blood was a beverage that they had doctored up for her, but she wouldn't drink it, and she hadn't gotten into the car willingly either and maybe she said she was going to go to authorities about that as well.

I think they got her in the car by the two brothers driving real slow and Snoot grabbed Natalee and tossed her in. At first she might have thought she was still ok, because she recognized them and they probably told her that they were going to give her a lift to the hotel. Once she realized that wasn't happening all heck probably broke loose.

2,313 posted on 06/16/2005 9:28:30 AM PDT by Rippersnapper
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2311 | View Replies]

To: No Surrender No Retreat

Thank you.

I keep trying to remind myself that Aruba's law enforcement officials have had very few murders to solve in the past. I'm afraid though that a very fine line exists between inexperience and ineptitude.


2,314 posted on 06/16/2005 9:30:10 AM PDT by Quilla
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2300 | View Replies]

To: maggiefluffs
I am thinking the substance that was first thought to be blood, might have been tested and it may have tested positive for traces of one the date rape drugs. I think they know that there is a good chance it was used.

Some asked why (not sure who it was) would Sloot do this to Natalee if he had his pick of "girls" on the island? - Natalee may have been a challenge to him so he may turned on his charm jets at full force. Most likely from the messages I have read and the pictures I have seen on his personal web page, most these girls were probably not a challenge to him as many of these girls were pretty "sexual" in what they had to say to him and they probably throw themselves at Joran.

I see Sloot having a big ego and a leader (or wanna be) of the wolf pack. Maybe one of the other boys teased him that Sloot "could not" get into Natalee's pants and maybe he was out to prove that he could by any means to his buddies.

Even though Joran is only 17 years old (18 in July or August per his website saying he was a Leo), I am sure that he has learn the ropes on how to be smooth and charming due to the culture and lifestyle he was living Aruba.
2,315 posted on 06/16/2005 9:31:10 AM PDT by stlnative
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2291 | View Replies]

To: brigette
I see Sloot having a big ego and a leader (or wanna be) of the wolf pack.

I agree. I think he is a user and at times even uses his friends.

2,316 posted on 06/16/2005 9:33:50 AM PDT by Rippersnapper
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2315 | View Replies]

To: Rippersnapper

I understand the reluctance to consider another possibility. But, I think Natalee was just a little drunk upon leaving Carlos & Charlies. Nothing that I have read suggests that she had been given a date rape drug. I think that the " Three attacking her " scenario is implausible. At least one or all of them would have been scratched or otherwise marked in some way by Natalee. We have no evidence of that. I am going strictly by what we know, ok? I am very uncomfortable with her walking from near the Marriott, where they were searching recently, and heading back to the Holiday Inn at 2:00 a.m. Doesnt look like a place I'd want my daughter to be walking through at two in the morning.


2,317 posted on 06/16/2005 9:37:52 AM PDT by MAWG (Diversity is where everyone looks different but thinks the same way.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2313 | View Replies]

To: MAWG

I think I covered that in my post, that she may not have been given the date rape drug, that would mean she could ID her attackers. 3 guys, one of them huge, holding a 110 pound girl is going to render her pretty much motionless.


2,318 posted on 06/16/2005 9:42:52 AM PDT by Rippersnapper
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2317 | View Replies]

To: All

NEW THREAD...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1424188/posts
2,319 posted on 06/16/2005 9:44:54 AM PDT by stlnative
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2318 | View Replies]

To: Rippersnapper

Good Point. I figured someone with political aspirations would have jumped on this with both feet. Damn!! I forgot, Natalee was not from New York. I would love to see some American Leadership, from the upper echelons start "busting some moves."

It is apparent Mrs Holloway, wants some ass kicked and some names taken. NSNR


2,320 posted on 06/16/2005 10:03:10 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2307 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 2,261-2,2802,281-2,3002,301-2,3202,321-2,324 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson