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Church Sex Case Stuns Louisiana Town
Anchorage Daily News & AP ^ | Friday, June 10, 2005 | Alan Sayre

Posted on 06/11/2005 3:05:35 AM PDT by ovrtaxt

PONCHATOULA, La. (AP) -- From his tire store next door, Donald Moore got an up-close look at the strange changes that went on at the once-bustling Hosanna Church.

For one thing, the congregation had dwindled to a handful of reclusive members who chased away visitors. For another, the windows were painted white so no one could see in. And just before it closed its doors for good a couple of years ago, eight dump trucks came in and spread dirt over the church's back lot.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: childabuse; louisiana; ministersnotpriests; ponchatoula; satanism
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To: Bubba
I do believe the wrong folks in this world are having the majority of the kids.

I stomped a liberal friend's argument down not too long ago - she was defending abortion - saying there should be no unwanted babies born in this world. I pointed out to her that even with the easy access to abortions that women have these days - everyday you hear about horrible things that some parents do to their "unwanted babies", that it hadn't seemed to help that problem at all.

She was speechless, she had no defense for a long moment & finally she started babbling that, "well, that's where we need to better educate these women".

Abortion is a failure on all fronts.

21 posted on 06/11/2005 5:24:25 AM PDT by alicewonders
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To: ovrtaxt
Eight now face child rape charges that could bring the death penalty.

There's a good start; should be more prevalent in this country.

I noted a couple of posts referring to voodoo: My mother lived in Lafayette, LA for several years, and once on her way out the door noticed some kind of powder someone had sprinkled on her front stoop. She swept it off and went on to work.

When she came home, she saw the powder again. Familiar with funny local attitudes, she went inside and got a large handful of sugar, then walked backwards all the way around her house, sprinkling it as she went. She said she felt silly as hell doing it, but she never saw anymore of the powder.

22 posted on 06/11/2005 6:34:12 AM PDT by Marauder (Politicians use words the way a squid uses ink.)
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To: Marauder

We just anoint the place with olive oil and decree the immediacy of the Kingdom of Heaven and the authority of the blood of Jesus.

That usually scares the daylights out of demons and such.


23 posted on 06/11/2005 6:38:39 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (...a sheep in wolf's clothing)
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To: ovrtaxt

Good question.

What should we do with folks who hijack threads?


24 posted on 06/11/2005 6:58:07 AM PDT by The Coopster
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To: The Coopster

Not a hijack, just a little logic.

Abortion isn't the point, it's the availability of forgiveness from God.

But to answer your question, hang 'em from lampposts on Main street.


25 posted on 06/11/2005 7:03:08 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (...a sheep in wolf's clothing)
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To: Junior

"There is some indication of devil worship, but that is different from Wicca."


Its all the same to me, if you don't worship G-d, you worship the devil.


26 posted on 06/11/2005 7:03:12 AM PDT by brwnsuga (Proud, Black, Conservative!)
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To: ovrtaxt

Kinda reminds you of a Stephen King movie....eerie....


27 posted on 06/11/2005 7:45:33 AM PDT by HarleyLady27 (My ? to Libs: "Do they ever shut up on your planet?")
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To: ovrtaxt

I'm absolutely stunned and almost speechless. How can this sort of thing be going on for so long right under everyone's noses? Those poor children had to have been threatened with the worst kind of torture if they told anyone.


28 posted on 06/11/2005 7:53:42 AM PDT by demkicker (It's clear that Frist cannot heard those Senate cats!)
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To: brwnsuga
Its all the same to me, if you don't worship G-d, you worship the devil.

How very two-dimensional of you...

29 posted on 06/11/2005 7:55:48 AM PDT by Junior (“Even if you are one-in-a-million, there are still 6,000 others just like you.”)
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To: Grut
Paganism relates to Satanism about the way the Nature Conservancy relates to the Baath party.

Same agenda.

"Satan" is a Hebrew word derived from the name of the pagan Egyptian god Set. Satan, Shaitan, Set or Seti ("ha-Set-hn" as spoken in the Hebrew) is a pagan entity, the "Adversary" of Judaic theology. A perplexing question is whether "Adversary" was originally intended as a plural like "Malakhim Raoth" in Hebrew, as a composite entity of the many "evil angels." (A "pagan" is anyone not Judaic, Christian or Muslim, according to primary dictionary definition in most errant college editions.) Paganism is pantheistic, idolatrous and always violently adversarial to Judaism historically. There is also Biblical description of pagan conflicts within Judaism itself, a confederacy of insurgent deceivers opposing God. Many Jewish rabbis will say that Satan does not exist at all; possibly because either phantasms are no things corporeal, and therefore the collective embodiment in their prince cannot be also; Satan, Lucifer, etc. are fictitious pagan deities, as all the pagan pantheons are contrived; or considering there is, according to Judaic theology, the many fallen angels, whereas Lucifer, Satan, Abaddon, Beelzebub, Belial, etc., etc. are but just a few of them. It is also consistent in Biblical teaching that there are false prophets within Judaism and the Christian Church inspired by such inimical genii. The Bible (both New and Old Testament), if taken literally, is a Zionist doctrine. Yahweh and Yeshua are Zionists, without exception or compromise.

The Egyptian priest Manetho associated the Jews with the Hyksos and Moses with the Egyptian priest Osarsiph. It was at this time that the belief the Jews worshipped an ass, an animal holy to the pagan Egyptian god Set, was established. Both the Jews and the pagan Egyptians used the labels (i.e., Satan, Set) to defame each other. How fitting that amidst this epic struggle and bloody conflict, the figure commonly known to Gentiles as Satan, was born into the World. Such conflict was evident from the cradle of human civilization through pagan Babylon, pagan Egypt, pagan Greece (with the Maccabean period of Ptolemaic Dynasties and Antiochus Epiphanes), pagan Rome, and continues into modern times on several fronts with Marxist iconic paganism, Islamic paganism and New Age Neo-paganism (they all hate the Jews and Christians).

The idea of a "Devil," lord and master of an infernal place, is universal to religion and a seemingly interminable myriad of names are enough to fill several pages in very fine print. The Patagonian devil "Setebos," alluded to by Shakespeare through Caliban in the Tempest, is one of many compelling similarities between esoteric mythoi in the Egyptian Book of the Dead: "Behold, I am Set, the creator of confusion, who creates both the tempest and the storm throughout the length and breadth of the heavens." Iago in Othello: "Divinity of Hell! When devils will the blackest of sins put on, they do suggest at first with heavenly shows, as I do now." Iago represents Satan in Othello. William Shakespeare knew a lot more in his time than the many do today. 'The many, as many, are ignorant,' according to Plato. Satan, Lucifer, etc., are spirits of paganism.

The Greeks called Set "Typhon," who was the war god assigned to Upper Egypt. This also represents another contravention to the "accepted" etymologies of words like "typhoon" in English, which is listed erroneously or deficiently as the Cantonese "tai fung" in many dictionaries. Often the etymologies are not congruent with definitions in language; such is true of the term "pagan." Often the Neo-Pagans will deceptively assert that Satan is only in Christianity. Satan is undeniably a Hebrew word (adapted from the name of the pagan Egyptian god Set, as the other devils' names are of pagan origin).

Socrates already told us why the pagans are liars and their gods are a lie before his execution for exposing the pantheistic pagan esoteric sophistries. Piety to the many gods, who all want different devotions or actions from humans, is impossible.

30 posted on 06/11/2005 8:11:06 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: alicewonders
I read Fredrica Matthewes Greene book "Gender." It was an excellent read and I recommend it highly. In that book she quoted a statistic that blew me away and it was about child abuse. I did try to find the exact quote but I do have to get going but since the infamous Court case Roe V Wade was handed down cases of child abuse have risen substantially.
31 posted on 06/11/2005 8:31:12 AM PDT by peter the great
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To: Grut

Not the same things. Paganism relates to Satanism about the way the Nature Conservancy relates to the Baath party.


I would say the way nature conservancy relates to ELF. Just more of the same.


32 posted on 06/11/2005 2:41:29 PM PDT by mlmr (CHICKIE-POO!)
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To: ovrtaxt

For pagan mysticists, it's apparently a question of just how mystical and spiritual they want to get. Yuck!


33 posted on 06/11/2005 3:44:36 PM PDT by familyop ("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Latin.)
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To: mlmr
I would say the way nature conservancy relates to ELF. Just more of the same.

Well, Satanism is a perversion of Christianity; Paganism isn't really related to either.

34 posted on 06/11/2005 4:55:26 PM PDT by Grut
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To: Grut

Every religion is a perversion of Christianity, including paganism.

Tower of Babel ring a bell?

And before you point out that Genesis predates Christianity, remember that God Himself proclaimed it first in Gen.3:15.


35 posted on 06/11/2005 6:21:08 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (...a sheep in wolf's clothing)
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To: alicewonders
She was speechless, she had no defense for a long moment & finally she started babbling that, "well, that's where we need to better educate these women".

Lack of education cannot be used as an excuse for anything anymore in America. There are clinics everywhere, crisis pregancy centers everywhere, sex ed info in every school, FREE public health departments in every city, etc.

The easier it becomes to get rid of your mistakes, the less thought one puts into making those mistakes. Period.

36 posted on 06/11/2005 6:31:35 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: Grut

Well, Satanism is a perversion of Christianity; Paganism isn't really related to either.

Paganism is often seen as being related to Satanism...similar rituals and roots. Satanism is a perversion of natural law.


Yuppie paganism is nice and sweet and just people having religious fun. Rooted historical paganism is a death and sex cult.


37 posted on 06/12/2005 2:34:00 PM PDT by mlmr (CHICKIE-POO!)
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To: mlmr

Paganism and Satanism really are the same thing. They are both part of the organized rebellion against the authority of the One who created us, provides for us and will ulitmately judge us.


38 posted on 06/12/2005 2:52:38 PM PDT by Biblebelter
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To: mlmr
Paganism is often seen as being related to Satanism...

Oh, c'mon! "...is often seen as..?" Here we are having a nice flame war and you come up with bureaucratic gobbledegook?

39 posted on 06/12/2005 4:40:13 PM PDT by Grut
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To: Junior
The accused were not witches. There is some indication of devil worship, but that is different from Wicca.

Wicca is only one flavor of witchcraft, and a relatively new development in the pagan scene.

40 posted on 06/12/2005 4:43:15 PM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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