Posted on 06/10/2005 10:16:32 PM PDT by CHARLITE
According to Ephraim Halevy, former chief of Israel's Mossad intelligence service and current national security adviser to Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, plans have been made for a substantial U.S. military presence in the Middle East lasting decades. The U.S. campaign in Iraq was perceived [in the Middle East and Washington] as a signal of long-term American commitment to do whatever is required and to stay in the neighborhood for as long as needed, commented Halevy in a lengthy op-ed column carried by the April 24 issue of Haaretz. High-ranking U.S. policymakers have raised the idea of establishing an American trusteeship regime in the areas of the Palestinian Authority, if it should turn out that the Palestinians are not ripe for self-rule. That arrangement would require an American operational military presence along Israels border with the Palestinian territories.
Speaking in a semi-closed forum during a visit to Israel a few months ago, continued Halevy, Bill Kristol, one of the most influential neocons [neoconservatives] in the United States, noted in this connection that the American presence in Europe after World War II lasted for nearly 60 years. Israelis who are trying to promote a role for NATO in the region, in one form or another, are actually promoting a generation-long American presence.
U.S. entanglement in the Middle East in the name of democracy has further destabilized the region and made violent fundamentalist revolution more likely, especially in Saudi Arabia. In [an early April] visit to the United States, comments Halevy, I was told by several well-informed observers that should one of the more severe scenarios come to pass, the United States will have no choice but to deepen its presence in the Middle East. To that end, it will have to renew the draft, to ensure that there are enough forces to deal with developing situations in countries like Saudi Arabia.
Nation building here we come.
We've been in Europe for decades...
You have to remember one thing. The Israelis NEVER retailated against SH for the scud attacks during the gulf war, why???
The Israeli feared that if SH fell Iraq would be three separate islamic nations, including one shia state.
Yup, the Mideast was the epitome of stability before 9/11 and the ouster of Saddam.
President Bush had the courage to "do the right thing." Clinton certainly didn't. He knew all about the threats and the danger, but he was carefully polishing his "legacy," while 9/11 was being prepared for America.
Char
This is the magazine of the John Birch Society, which said there were a million ChiCom troops massed south of the US/Mexico border awaiting the signal to invade.
Alarm bells go off whenever anyone uses the word Destabilize in conjunction with the middle east. The middle east hasn't been stable in my lifetime.
President Bush had the courage to "do the right thing." Clinton certainly didn't. He knew all about the threats and the danger, but he was carefully polishing his "legacy,"...
Hmmm, I always thought Clinton was spending his time having his "legacy" polished...
They are no longer there. They have moved here disguised as Mexicans. Haven't you wondered why so many Mexicans are eating in Chinese restaurants now, or eating fahitas with chop sticks?
>>polishing his "legacy<<
What an apt choice of terms.
And I couldn't agree more.
It's interesting that all these goals of the liberals are denounced by the liberals simply because someone not of their political ilk has created the conditions for them. In decades past all we heard from libs was that we never went to war to help people, only for financial reasons. Now that a Republican has begun the democratization of the Middle East, a long, hard, unpredictable process, they cannot behave in an adult manner and forget their petty personal feelings, they have to attack the entire enterprise. But in doing so, they only reveal their socialist core--these people are outraged that might makes right and that might is wielded by the US.
If all of these things occured under a Soviet army, Katrina Vanden Heuvel and her gang would be saying "This is how a military should be used, to spread democracy and freedom with minimal casualties."
Instead, all they can do is scream about a handful of prisoner abuse cases. Meanwhile, tens of millions are freed. What sad little people these liberals be.
Muslims rampaged all over the Middle East, North Africa, Spain, France, Hungary.....for 700 years, until "Los Reyes Catolicos" (Ferdinand and Isabella) finally threw them out of Spain in 1492, which turned out to be a veritable "banner year" for the world. Muslims are a perpetually "destabilizing" force, thanks to Islam and the culture of war, murder and death.
Char
I was just sitting here thinking to myself someone aught to point out that the ME has never, not in all of the known history of the area, judging by clay tablets written 5,00 years ago, enjoyed any lengthy period of peace. It was one war after another, one conquest after another; seems that when man begins agriculture and accumulates possessions there's always someone over the next hill or sanddune ready to ride in, rob and kill and rape the women.
If you want to keep your culture, your civilization and your possessions it's best to be prepared to defend them. 'Destabilized' might just mean pillage and plunder has been interrupted, not prevented.
It's my distinct impression that "destabilization" was the expressed purpose of our action. Appropriately so.
It is equally obvious that the Saudis will eventually have to clean up their act. Or be cleaned, themselves.
The JBS has always had a firm grasp on the obvious...
This guy lost me at "hello"...no thanks to any more Middle East "stability" leading to 9-ll and all the other terror atrocities through the years...
Honest to G-d. This says it all. Pitiful bunch, aren't they?........I mean, can you IMAGINE waking up one morning and discovering that you were Harry Reid, or Barbara Boxer, Howard Dean, Al Gore, Killery Kleentone......or Fat Boy? Just imagine such a frightful turn of events! - becoming one of these people!


Very interesting analysis.
Then again, I definitely can see Pelosi and Kennedy shaking Reid's dry hand and saying "That was a great moment in statesmanship history, Harry!"
I recently read "Misunderestimated"--it's a good reminder of, among other things, what a real sh** Reid was during the 2002 election.
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