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Root Causes, Homosexual Consequences
People Can Change ^ | 2004

Posted on 06/10/2005 4:10:52 PM PDT by scripter

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It was very eye-opening.
I would have to say #4 is much higher, but the shame and fear probably continues to keep people from dealing with it. #4 could be overcome with a strong family unit, so that makes it twice as bad.
I pray for these folks who have such inner turmoil.
They aren't to be shunned - they are to be loved and helped.


41 posted on 06/10/2005 11:37:09 PM PDT by mabelkitty
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To: knak

Don't forget, grandfathers, uncles, or your brother-in-law could make for wonderful role models, as well.

I'm sorry for your loss, so please don't burden yourself. You have wonderful stories to share with him about his dad, and that may be who he will aspire to be!


42 posted on 06/10/2005 11:42:14 PM PDT by mabelkitty
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This is excellent scrip, where did you find this? NARTH, Exodus?
44 posted on 06/11/2005 8:30:36 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (WARNING: Exposure To The Son May Prevent Burning.)
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To: mabelkitty

My thoughts exactly, he is nine and remembers him well. So trying to keep him as alive as possible for him. Thanks.


45 posted on 06/11/2005 8:34:14 AM PDT by knak (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing)
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To: Rca2000

ping.


46 posted on 06/11/2005 8:37:27 AM PDT by Nowhere Man (Lutheran, Conservative, Neo-Victorian/Edwardian, Michael Savage in '08! - DeCAFTA-nate CAFTA!)
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To: Clint N. Suhks
I found the website People Can Change referenced in a book, perhaps A Parent's Guide to Preventing Homosexuality, and I've been pouring over their site ever since.

Last year I decided to concentrate more on the ex-gay/former homosexual aspect of the issue, as the very existence of ex-gays tends to help folks better focus on the real issues.

47 posted on 06/11/2005 8:49:27 AM PDT by scripter (Tens of thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: DameAutour
"What if I'd attended college and tried to fit in by trying lesbian sex (which is really a form of mutual masturbation that is probably quite pleasurable and not painful like sex with men can be)."

I suspect there is something to that. I've noticed that excessive narcissism seems to be prevalent in the gay community, although it tends to be very much on the surface without a lot of introspection.
I suspect this is overcompensation for feelings of inferiority or inadequacy, and a lot of the behavior is an unhealthy reinforcement mechanism to compensate.

48 posted on 06/11/2005 9:13:45 AM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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the very existence of ex-gays tends to help folks better focus on the real issues.

You're right, that's the silver bullet. As much as I try to research the science end of the equation, it's all null and void if the ex-gay movement gets legs in the MSM. It'll take dragging the pro-sodomy activists out the door by their heels.

49 posted on 06/11/2005 9:14:54 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (WARNING: Exposure To The Son May Prevent Burning.)
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This is fascinating. I have some thoughts.

I have a nephew and a BIL who would, according to this, be very at risk for homosexuality.

My nephew, raised without a male figure until he was five and then by a step father he pretty much despised and could not relate to. Though, the step father was a decent man. My sister and myself really raised him. And, yes we smothered and did coddle him.

Though, he has been married and had children, I often have wondered if he had some issues about his sexuality when he was younger. He went through some difficult periods and I often wonder if he went to the other side for material needs. If that makes sense.

Now, my brother in law was raised very similarly. No father figure to speak of. Smothering mother. BUT, he did have my husband as a role model and to keep his butt in line. Strangley, my husband (ten years older) did have the father around during most of HIS youth and had him as more of a role model.

So, I would never even consider my BIL going over to the dark side. EVER. I think having the older brother decreased his vulnerability.

Intersting article, I think there is alot of truth there.

50 posted on 06/11/2005 9:27:31 AM PDT by riri
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BTTT


51 posted on 06/11/2005 11:34:33 AM PDT by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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If same-sex attraction really is a result of environment and confusion as we think it is, there really is no such thing as signs of homosexuality.

BTTT

52 posted on 06/11/2005 2:55:07 PM PDT by DirtyHarryY2K (''Go though life with a Bible in one hand and a Newspaper in the other" -- Billy Graham)
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To: scripter; gidget7; little jeremiah; EdReform

I've heard this guy speak a few times. As a former homosexual is a MUST for this topic:

http://www.sbministries.org/

and

http://stephenbennett.blogspot.com/


53 posted on 06/12/2005 10:54:32 AM PDT by worldclass (www.massright.com)
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To: scripter

BTTT


54 posted on 06/12/2005 12:23:42 PM PDT by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: scripter
Over 40 testimonials of ex-gays.
55 posted on 06/12/2005 12:54:35 PM PDT by scripter (Tens of thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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Mike Haley's Great Escape from homosexuality.
56 posted on 06/12/2005 12:55:52 PM PDT by scripter (Tens of thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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Confession from a former homosexual
57 posted on 06/12/2005 12:56:27 PM PDT by scripter (Tens of thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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Eagles Wings Testimonials
58 posted on 06/12/2005 12:57:14 PM PDT by scripter (Tens of thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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...it was a common experience for us to over-identify with or become overly dependent on our mothers. ... Mom often became our confidant and mentor instead of Dad. But Mom could never show us how to act and think like a man. So it was common for us to view maleness from a woman's perspective instead of a man's. We inadvertently adopted a woman's view of the world.

That makes a lot of sense.

...as children or youth, they had been sexually abused by an older or more powerful person. Usually it was by a male, and in those cases, 96% considered the abuse to have contributed to their developing SSA feelings.

But this makes NO sense. Why would they be attracted to the gender that abused them? You'd think it would be the opposite.

59 posted on 06/12/2005 1:25:52 PM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp
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Because molestation of boys often involves sexual pleasure for them as well. It's molestation/seduction.

It's a lot easier for boys to experience sexual pleasure even while being molested than girls. It's crude, but it's the nature of the beast.


60 posted on 06/12/2005 11:23:01 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it.)
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