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To: Black Tooth
It's clear to me that you know much more about law enforcement, developing probable cause, collaborative investigations, methamphetamine investigations, simultaneous service of multiple search warrants, stolen property investigations, proper inventory of evidence for chain of custody (took me and another officer 18 hrs to do one meth lab once upon a time), street gang intelligence and outlaw MC gangs (Bandido's who have over 20 support MCs) than I could ever hope to know. Thank you.
27 posted on 06/10/2005 10:46:13 AM PDT by Horatio Gates (Mullah al-Whipple says,"Don't squeeze the Koran." Safe for septic systems.)
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To: shotokan
It's clear to me that you know much more about law enforcement,than I could ever hope to know. Thank you.

Well, I must say, that's a very impressive resume. And I can assure you I am not trying to compete with your law enforcement expertise. No need to get angry here.

My only point was assigning 300 ATF investigators to investigate a biker group with less members in the area than investigators doing the investigating seems to be a bit over done.

300 investigators seems like overkill to me considering they only generated arrest and search warrants for 20 members of the biker club.

Even the one charge of kidnapping was from way back in May of 2003.

And the only assault mentioned was one, involving a knife.

As far the wit intimidation and the victim allegedly finding four live bullets on the roof of their car, well this wouldn't be much of an investigation unless there was a witness or informant stating who do it.

Ten counts of the indictment relate to alleged dealing in marijuana and methamphetamine

Again, there was nothing about manufacturing meth here in the article, only dealing or selling it. These are pretty common charges, and not too complex to prosecute with evidence.

My only point and opinion was using 300 investigators, to investigate maybe 100 or 200 bikers seems to be a bit of an over kill.

You indicated this investigation may have taken "years". With 300 investigators, making about 45k a year, this investigation lasting only 2 years would have cost approximately $27,000,000.00. Seems a bit costly to me.

I didn't mean to insinuate that you weren't a expert in law enforcement procedures and operations, I was just making an observation based on the article.

Thanks.

35 posted on 06/10/2005 2:38:44 PM PDT by Black Tooth
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